Can you be pulled by plod-

I wish the tw@t racer boys on the M20 at 5.40am this morning knew their highway code - can't believe the number of cars I saw with sidelights (only), front fogs and no rear fogs on in the fast lane doing 85+... In thick fog. I want a GOD button in my car that allows me to have idiots beamed off the road and into the nearest deep lake.
 
European rules state "50 mts visibility in fog or less" ......

it also states that you are not allowed to use the rear fog light when its raining.

50 mts is a pretty good rule of thumb to remember ........
 
I find these newly fitted anti fog light lights work in peruading the Inconsiderate oncoming traffic to switch off there fog lights on bright clear nights :oops:
or any other time, come to think off it :)

You would'nt belive how many elbows I've seen since having them fitted :lol:
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Bing said:
I wish the tw@t racer boys on the M20 at 5.40am this morning knew their highway code - can't believe the number of cars I saw with sidelights (only), front fogs and no rear fogs on in the fast lane doing 85+... In thick fog. I want a GOD button in my car that allows me to have idiots beamed off the road and into the nearest deep lake.

I could be wrong but i believe the correct way to use front fog lights in thick fog it to turn off your dipped and use sidelights only with them, as the lights are lower to the ground they light the road only..... The number of idiots i see with full beams on in thick fog with it just reflecting back at them and other road users astounds me :roll:

That being said i have never found any use for my front fog lights on any car of mine... thats why i am upgrading to an M front bumper.. and getting rid of mine!
 
aquazi said:
Bing said:
I wish the tw@t racer boys on the M20 at 5.40am this morning knew their highway code - can't believe the number of cars I saw with sidelights (only), front fogs and no rear fogs on in the fast lane doing 85+... In thick fog. I want a GOD button in my car that allows me to have idiots beamed off the road and into the nearest deep lake.

I could be wrong but i believe the correct way to use front fog lights in thick fog it to turn off your dipped and use sidelights only with them, as the lights are lower to the ground they light the road only..... The number of idiots i see with full beams on in thick fog with it just reflecting back at them and other road users astounds me :roll:

That being said i have never found any use for my front fog lights on any car of mine... thats why i am upgrading to an M front bumper.. and getting rid of mine!

Genuinely did not know that about switching dipped off, would have thought that increases the chances of someone not seeing you behind, but I can see the logic as (especially the Zed standard) dipped are very little use for actually seeing anything. As for full beam-ers... Yup, had quite a few of them too... :x
 
I find foglights useless due the bonnet length of the zed. My E46 fogs were much better


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Adamski said:
I find foglights useless due the bonnet length of the zed. My E46 fogs were much better

You need a 'fog' setting on one of your memory seat buttons - max height, nose on windscreen. Works a treat :thumbsup:
 
Taz x said:
what are DRL's?

DRLs - Daytime Running Lights - notice how every new car has a line of LEDs somewhere on the front nowadays, mostly with a negative effect on how the car looks ? Having them fitted as standard on new cars is law now I believe, and they are permanently on.
 
I find that when the road is wet and idiots have thier fog lights on, it can, on certain rod surfaces cause a lot of glare. Likewise with DRL.
 
I find the LED lights distracting and unnecessary. I have no doubt they save the lives of hundreds of partially blind rabbits each year, and perhaps the odd cat


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I have to say that the BMW halo DRL's are the best out there, much nicer than the Audi/Merc LED affairs. However I am a little concerned with how long my Xenon's will last and if they go within the warranty period is it a warranty issue?
 
gannet said:
DRL's make picking out motorcyclist's or cyclist's using lights harder :(

Exactly. For example:
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http://www.lightmare.org/ - Interesting site about the hazards of DRLs and high-intensity bulbs.
 
They may not be directional but the whole point of a front fog light is to have a low cut-off on the beam. That way it is not reflected back off the fog in front like normal lights or main beams do.
They are low to the ground and light is limited in height. Unless the road is wet, I fail to see how they can dazzle....
..... and no I don't use them (other cars than the M which doesnt have them)
 
dan425 said:
http://www.lightmare.org/ - Interesting site about the hazards of DRLs and high-intensity bulbs.

Interesting site....especially the bit about the EU allegedly selecting DRL strength to compete with the sun - jeezuz, if you can't see a car in bright sunlight you deserve to get run over frankly.

But then I am a personal hater of Xenons.
 
bat1959 said:
I find that when the road is wet and idiots have thier fog lights on, it can, on certain rod surfaces cause a lot of glare. Likewise with DRL.
+1. I especially hate with a passion people who sit in queues of traffic with their rear fog on. If I'm half a car length behind you in an urban environment you DO NOT NEED to burn my retinas thank you. The same goes for people who sit with their foot on the brake because some rear lights can be seriously bright these days. Since buying an automatic I am off course a complete hypocrite when it comes to that last bit though... :oops:

The only times I've ever found front fog lights to have been any use what so ever has been when the fog or mist is so thick that running with dipped beam is too bright and just bounces back into your face. Sitting in the car and turning them on when it's just average visibility (in my humble opinion) makes no noticeable difference.

Another bug bear (especially when I was living down South) was people putting on their fogs (because conditions required it) but still continuing at their normal pace along M-ways etc. If you genuinely need fogs on, then you are highly likely to need to slow down as well. Last months wee shunt on the M5 proves what can happen when visibility is obscured and people are still driving like it's not.

Everyone has different opinions, but I'm not one of the people who think their car looks 'cooler' by having front fogs on.
 
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