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benlumley said:
I went last year on holiday - had a convertible Mustang for two weeks and went in a big loop - San Diego > Orange County > LA > Vegas > Hoover Dam > Death Valley > Las Vegas > Death Valley > Yosemite > San Francisco > Coast Road to LA > Orange County > San Diego (plus all the roads/sights in between).

Mustang was very different to a z - swung about like a boat on a rough sea even just changing lanes on the freeway - fortunately, there are relatively few twisty roads! Made a nice noise when you put your foot down though and was fun to be in. Also feels very 'American' - combination of size/handling/autobox/etc I think- which added to the whole thing for me. I'd definitely recommend a mustang or similar :thumbsup: - Although see you drive an M - so not sure how you'd find the speed. It was a bit slower than my 3.0 according to the internet, but was very torquey/muscle car like though so didn't really notice! Maybe you could get a Mustang GT....

Also - despite Americans moaning about the cost of fuel, we did 2,500 miles on around £200 in fuel - so it's cheap.

As to where to go - first off, I'm more about the countryside than cities. So in order - if you can get to the Grand Canyon, I'd definitely recommend that. Awesome sight, got to see it! As others have said, pacific coast highway is great from SF to LA - although it was foggy when we drove it :( - fair distance to drive up and back a weekend though. Yosemite is well worth seeing too - the valley and the national park in general. But again, a long way. Death Valley is good to see, and oh so hot - roof down was intolerable for more than a few mins in the middle of the day, but also a long way. On the non countryside front - SF is a really nice city, well worth a day or two!

And then driving between any of these places - in a day you can go from desert to the green lushness of yosemite and a real mix of different types of town along the way - so there's so much see in as you go.

Could be worth flying up to SF and going places from there one weekend? Internal flights in the US can be fairly cheap.

Also - distances are big, and the roads are very straight with little changing scenery in places - eg across deserts. So it can be hard to stay alert - we found it very hard at night, especially once you started to get tired. So recruit co-drivers and share the driving!

wow bet you had lots of fun
yehh im thinking maybe good idea to fly up to san fran cos thts gonna save me a lot of time
i will see whats happening with other ppl, cos a few have been on this triop before so will know what is do-able in the time weve got to do what we want
def wanna go SF and san diego if i can, and maybe if a group are heading into vegas i might pop along and put a dollar on red or something :thumbsup:
i will keep you all updated/ask further quesitions as the trip goes on,
less than two weeks to go :thumbsup:
 
Woots - One thing with the US is to never underestimate the distances.

I once thought of a weekend in Vegas from Orange County until I realised it's 600m return for what looked like 2" on the map :rofl:

San Diego to San Fran is over 500 miles, so you'd have to fly.

Best to now spell out what you're after and zone in on what's practical to do.
 
We lived in San Diego from 1982 to 2001.

El Centro will be HOT this time of year. It is unlike anything in the UK. We laugh when people here complain of the heat and it is only 25.

Stay out of Mexico unless you have someone with recent local knowledge to go with you. Drug wars have made a few places no-go areas for tourists. When we lived in San Diego, Tecate was both safe and a nice place to visit for an afternoon. If you do go, Mexico isn't the lawless country often portrayed by movies and TV news.

What sort of things interest you? San Diego has a lot to offer, especially if you like outdoor activities. The Zoo and the Wild animal park are both world class.
 
Woots, if your thinking of flying to San Fransisco, then I would highly recommend it, it's a fantastic city, really friendly, clean and a lot of fun, try to get to Alcatraz as it's a really thought provoking experience, then drive back along the Coast.
 
Drshemming said:
Woots, if your thinking of flying to San Fransisco, then I would highly recommend it, it's a fantastic city, really friendly, clean and a lot of fun, try to get to Alcatraz as it's a really thought provoking experience, then drive back along the Coast.

Yeah it is, but even there be careful where you go... I took a wrong turn out of the shopping area and ended up in the Tenderloin... that was not a fun experience, I tell you!
 
sp3ctre said:
Yeah it is, but even there be careful where you go... I took a wrong turn out of the shopping area and ended up in the Tenderloin... that was not a fun experience, I tell you!

Every large city has areas tourists should stay out of. . .

If you do go to SF and have more than two days, it is worth going across the bay to Berkeley.
 
Go to seal beach, I spent a week there and it's so friendly and laid back. Great pier, and 2 irish pubs on the main street. Also a fantastic marina. I agree about Mexico border, full of beggars and dodgy food.
 
Be sure to drive on the CORRECT side of the road as well :poke:
Seriously, I can put you in touch with the ZSCCA area rep for So. Cal, Bob, he would be great help in telling you where to go.. :thumbsup:
I'll send you a PM with his e-mail address.
 
Macca said:
Go to seal beach, I spent a week there and it's so friendly and laid back. Great pier, and 2 irish pubs on the main street. Also a fantastic marina. I agree about Mexico border, full of beggars and dodgy food.


Each to their own, but I never get this. Why go half way around the world to and end up in an Irish Pub?
What am I missing here?

Agree re seal beach though. Not bad at all :thumbsup:
Prefer Santa Monica and Venice Beach, just because it's Baywatch teritory, beauties on roler blades and the wacky cultures along the seafront.
 
California is having highs of about 79 degrees F at the moment along the coast. San diego has a great Zoo and old town is a good way to see what the area was like a hudred years ago. There's shopping everywhere. The closest beach is mission bay and sea world is near that. The USS Midway is docked at San Diego and if you are in to
Navy ships its a good place to visit. If you go East there is a lot of open road and proper desert. A 2012 Mustang would fit the bill they are quick cars for rentals al 320 HP. Have a great time here and welcom
 
Pay attention to CJ's warning of long distances. Driving just to get somewhere can suck up all your spare time, which sounds in short supply. Even flying will take time. I don't think it's worth flying to San Francisco if just overnight. You'll want a minimum full day unencumbered by travel requirements.

I would suggest simply limiting your explorations to the San Diego County region. There's plenty to do, and you won't waste time travelling farther afield. The mountains East of San Diego are nice if you enjoy nature. There's even twisty roads around. It's true most major roads are wide, flat, and straight. But there's lots of twisty minor roads that are fun and scenic, even in a hire car. Try Lyons Valley Road (leave I-8 at Hwy 79 & go South to little town of Jamul) or take a trip to Mt. Palomar Observatory.

Not for everyone, but Anza_Borrego is a decent example of pristine Sonoran desert. I think it's starkly beautiful. Could be worth a drive through, or hire a 4x4 for really exploring. It'll be freakishly hot, but you'll have air con. Carry LOTS of water.

There's really no reason to be concerned about personal safety in San Diego region. You'll be fine just using basic traveller's precautions. If you get to LA or SF, there are some dodgy areas, but mainly an issue at night. If you blunder into one of these, you'll be in a car. Keep the doors locked, turn around and leave. In LA, it'll be obvious you're in the wrong place. The SF Tenderloin is dodgy, not that obvious, but not really that dangerous either.
 
Woots-
Lots of good advice above. El Centro will be very hot and dry! San Diego is your best bet within reasonable distance - but be aware, traffic in SD can be bad. Beaches are beautiful, and La Jolla is a great place (~45 min north of San Diego).
I would stay out of Mexico now, and I avoid LA like the plague. If you must go to LA, Santa Monica and Venice are OK - Getty Museum (either one) is great.
Santa Barbara is about 2 hours north of LA (4 hours from San Diego), and a very nice place (so I'm told.) Much cooler, less crowded, nice views, right on the coast and great wine country.
Feel free to PM any time for US advice - and certainly if you find yourself near Santa Barbara, check in!
 
Drshemming said:
Woots, if your thinking of flying to San Fransisco, then I would highly recommend it, it's a fantastic city, really friendly, clean and a lot of fun, try to get to Alcatraz as it's a really thought provoking experience, then drive back along the Coast.

I did it the other way, LA to San Francisco. Thoroughly recommend it. It's a bucket list thing in my opinion.
 
Stuart Truman said:
Drshemming said:
Woots, if your thinking of flying to San Fransisco, then I would highly recommend it, it's a fantastic city, really friendly, clean and a lot of fun, try to get to Alcatraz as it's a really thought provoking experience, then drive back along the Coast.

I did it the other way, LA to San Francisco. Thoroughly recommend it. It's a bucket list thing in my opinion.

Did the same thing, and enjoyed it so much I'd happily do it all again :-)


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RidgyDidge said:
Stuart Truman said:
Drshemming said:
Woots, if your thinking of flying to San Fransisco, then I would highly recommend it, it's a fantastic city, really friendly, clean and a lot of fun, try to get to Alcatraz as it's a really thought provoking experience, then drive back along the Coast.

I did it the other way, LA to San Francisco. Thoroughly recommend it. It's a bucket list thing in my opinion.

Did the same thing, and enjoyed it so much I'd happily do it all again :-)

I'm going to. I'm lucky to have friends in SF :)

I think a viper next time though, or a vette. The mustang was agricultural, although new at the time and lots of Americans came over to say hi and take a look
 
Go with Hertz at LAX, book something basic and then take the choice of what's in the lot and upgrade, cheaper that way...anything from Jags, to Audis, 370 Z's to Amercian junk.....
 
wow
thanks for the info guys :thumbsup:

by sounds of it i will prob def go to san diego, thats for sure, and then depending on time possibly go san fran, the mrs has been there back in her virgin cabin crew days and she liked it there

but san diego is somewhere i ll prob certinly go, and am i right in thinking that its about two hour drive to san diego from el centro? so easily done in hire car?
thanks for all the advice guys, def appreciated :thumbsup:
 
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