By god airbags hurt when they go off
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mad4slalom
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whoah envy, thin ice, dangerous ground, or just lokking for a verbal slap ? better get yr tin hat on !!!,.....ruby ? carol ? ndb ? come on girls , you're not going to let him get away with that are you ??? 
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:evil:I will agree. Being a dick on the road is not directly related to sexuality, car make, engine size or anything else. It just seems to be a gift that some people have. I can think of 4 particular drivers I see almost every day on my commute who drive like utter tools and the split is 50/50.
Stuart Truman said:
Stuart - arn't you quoting the ABS piece out of context? The reason for that surely is that when using ABS brakes you are supposed to keep pressure firmly on the pedal and let the system sort the stopping, as opposed to cadence braking, etc.?
That aside would you suggest that if you were at a traffic island holding the car on the biting point, using the handbrake to hold the car still until there was a gap in the trafic thus displaying no brake lights and were hit from behind it would be your fault?
Not trying to be contentious as op has already said it's his fault.
Tbh it was my fault as I hit her from behind!! Didn't look like too much damage to mine but just been told it is a goner.
I have 5 years protected NCD on that car. Insurance runs out tomorrow. I cancelled my new poilcy today as I don't have a car!!
Insurance says my no claims will still be ok for when I get a new car. Just no NCB for this year.
Hopefully all goes well.
Just noticed a cut on my forehead this morning from the airbag too.
I have 5 years protected NCD on that car. Insurance runs out tomorrow. I cancelled my new poilcy today as I don't have a car!!
Insurance says my no claims will still be ok for when I get a new car. Just no NCB for this year.
Hopefully all goes well.
Just noticed a cut on my forehead this morning from the airbag too.
Mowflow said:
In certain traffic accidents the investigators look at light bulbs. Apparantly they can tell if a bulb was illuminated the moment of impact as the molten filament sticks to the glass. Guess that's gone in the LED era.
All academic as shambolic and other parties are OK, insurance is paying it, no real loss of from insurance perspective, just a load of hassle getting a new car, etc.
envy said:glad its not too serious
but 6 out of 10 times when i see a driver do a stupid things on the roads, it turns out to be a woman who is either confused, panicky or just generally doesnt have a clue, 2 out of 10 its a doddery old person, 1 out of 10 a bloke who is in a rush to get somewhere and the other 1 out of 10 could be anyone else
seriously women cannot multi task when driving, they need to shut up and concentrate on driving and nothing else
Oddly, I tend to find it's men overtaking me/speeding/doing really stupid things when I am in the zed, NOT women....
cj10jeeper said:
Yes, but I stated it was in the abs section. Overall it says that in an emergency, use the footbrake and not the handbrake. You're taught not to use the handbrake to stop the car and in doing so she had no brake lights. I also said he was in the wrong, but this might be a mitigating circumstance.
cj10jeeper said:
Of course not, in that instance the car in front is stationary and not carrying out any kind of braking.
Not taken as contentious and not looking for an argument (I haven't paid for the full argument) just saying that it's not quite as clear cut as running up the back of a stationary car. If she'd used the brakes and her lights were faulty it would likely be a 50:50.
Nondizzyblonde said:envy said:glad its not too serious
but 6 out of 10 times when i see a driver do a stupid things on the roads, it turns out to be a woman who is either confused, panicky or just generally doesnt have a clue, 2 out of 10 its a doddery old person, 1 out of 10 a bloke who is in a rush to get somewhere and the other 1 out of 10 could be anyone else
seriously women cannot multi task when driving, they need to shut up and concentrate on driving and nothing else
Oddly, I tend to find it's men overtaking me/speeding/doing really stupid things when I am in the zed, NOT women....
Yep. Followed a prat in an i10 this morning. Inside lane empty, he was in the outside doing 45mph and kept ducking down fiddling with something under the dash. He was all over the place and I just had to sit back and watch which whilst entertaining was little frustrating as the speed limit is 70mph.
Bad driver and good ones come in all shapes and sizes. Remarkable that, who'd have thought it!!
Nondizzyblonde said:
i dont disagree with that statement, i often overtake women who are doing 15mph in a 30mph zone but to name a few instances of women being in the wrong. i had one pull out of a give way right in front of me yesterday even though she saw me coming.... i have no idea what caused her to do that and it gave me a fright. wish i had kept the footage from my dash cam now lol
another time, i was stuck behind a x5 on a dual carriageway a few months back. it was in the outside lane doing a constant 60mph, the nearside lane was clear for miles ahead but the driver wouldnt pull over for love or money. after a minute of this, i got annoyed and undertook as i looked over i saw the woman driver was driving with her nose about an inch from the steering wheel peering forwards with no sense of what was going on around her. i found that infuriating and a tad dangerous
another time i saw a woman reverse parking. she bumped the car behind, then the one in front and when she eventually got it in, she decided she didnt want to park there and moved her car to the other side of the road
as for the 45% and 55% stat, based on the average mileage of the average male and the amount of male drivers on the road doing long journeys as opposed to the shopping, work or school run then yeah they are more likely to have more accidents. last year i covered 15k miles without an accident
now i am not saying all women are bad drivers but how many times have you seen a woman have an accident or a close call and they either freeze, get hysterical or burst into tears.... i've never once seen a guy do that
but to summarise, guys can be just as bad but you will find that the guys are usually/ mostly younger drivers showing off
TitanTim said:
Great mantra and wherever possibe I follow it, but in reality it's not possible in modern day driving to maintain it and you simply have to use a degree of assumption and anticipation to reduce the margins.
Example woudl be:
Busy congested motorways with thinking at 21m and stopping at 75m that's 23 car lengths (really approx). If you left half that cars woudl continue to pile in gaps and tailgaters woudl soon be undercutting, etc.
Commuter traffic into cities where traffic has to clear lights and busy junctions and pack itself tightly.
I think most accidents these days are caused by a lack of awareness of what's going on by one party with poor driving by the other (look at the opening post in this thread where we may have both).
Hopefully if I'm doing at least one of these then accidents get avoided and compensate for the other driver.
envy said:
This is true, once you get a bit older and have been driving for a while, you realise that 90% of people don't care about driving/cars and are just trying to get from A to B with no interest for the bit inbetween (apart from being in the most comfort they can afford!). That's when you stop showing off/racing everyone you come across and driving like a douche thinking someone's impressed by it or gives a s**t. Once you drive for your own enjoyment on decent roads that aren't just a dual carriageway foot to floor drag race driving becomes a lot more enjoyable.....in my book anyway
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I don't get why it is automatically deemed to be the car at the back that is at fault?
In this instance, the car in front stopped unexpectedly without any warning (brake lights etc) and the car at the back was simply caught out, due to the car in fronts sudden braking.
The car in front is the cause of the collision?
However, when in doubt at who is at fault, get the whisky out and offer the other driver some to calm their nerves. Then decline to have some yourself and wait for the cops....
In this instance, the car in front stopped unexpectedly without any warning (brake lights etc) and the car at the back was simply caught out, due to the car in fronts sudden braking.
The car in front is the cause of the collision?
However, when in doubt at who is at fault, get the whisky out and offer the other driver some to calm their nerves. Then decline to have some yourself and wait for the cops....
Brake lights are only there to say you are braking as a guide for other road users. You can still slow down heavily via engine braking, regen braking on new hybrids can be quite a high deceleration.
Given a handbrake is many times less effective than a foot brake, I'd say she was slowing down pretty slowly, and was going slowly to use it at all to stop at a roundabout with other traffic coming onto the roundabout in front of her.
Anyone here tried to stop quickly on their handbrake?
Given a handbrake is many times less effective than a foot brake, I'd say she was slowing down pretty slowly, and was going slowly to use it at all to stop at a roundabout with other traffic coming onto the roundabout in front of her.
Anyone here tried to stop quickly on their handbrake?
kevinmarkwhite said:
I know your comment is partially tongue in cheek, given the last paragraph, however it's just one of those rules of the road. You hit the car in front you're to blame. Pretty much end of..
You should always be ready to stop regardless of what the car in front does. In this instance it was entirely caused by the following car, (and admitted as such) looking to the right and in effect assuming the driver in front would drive off.
As MrWhippy says you can't rely on brake lights - if the car in front changes down a gear, uses strong engine braking of a diesel engine, etc. is it their fault if you drive into them? Clearly not.