Building a Garage

Great thanks woody. Not a single problem nearly 4000 miles later... Touch wood.

Looks like you've changed your motor since I last came in here? Looks stunning!
 
JDM said:
Great thanks woody. Not a single problem nearly 4000 miles later... Touch wood.

Looks like you've changed your motor since I last came in here? Looks stunning!

Good stuff mate, wow you've racked up some miles in a short time! Bet that was a silky smooth and comfortable 4k miles :) Sounds better than the E89 you had...

Yes I sold my roadster, bought Paza's MC (July). Did want to buy yours remember but you prematurely sold it to the OP! Probably for the best otherwise I probably wouldn't have bought the M. Thanks mate, it's great fun! Hope you get booked for the garage work :)
 
Hey JDM, good seeing you on here.

Planning Portal won't tell you what your chances are, but will give you an interactive guide about what you an do to your house under permitted development (if you have PD rights) but if you're having plans drawn up for Building Regs, you may as well apply for a Lawful Development Cert (if PD) at the same time. This helps when it comes to selling your house and solicitors enquiring on planning status etc...
 
Taz x said:
i would insist on a side door too

^^This.
Sectional or roller door every time and give consideration to getting services to it , electric & water?

It may be more work/cost than you think.
 
JaEdBa said:
Shortly be buying a house with an access road to the rear but no garage; so i have decided to build one. however, i have a degree of trepidation of blundering with the 'design'...

it's a terraced house, the plot is roughly 18' wide, the access road's fairly narrow and there is no scope for a driveway without eating into the back garden - i have already decided the garage will span the full width of the plot and the door will be automatic and fairly wide, otherwise the lack of swing will hamper easy access.

firstly, any thoughts on automatic garage doors, roller, or the up and over with a motor, or any other designs?

I know Stamford well and would suggest you speak to the planning department at South Kesteven DC for pre-application advice as to the possibility of obtaining planning permission particularly if it is in a conservation area. A sketch of your proposals is usually required. One thing to bear in mind is that local authorities are not happy to permit new garages to be constructed close to a pavement and usually insist on a minimum 6 metre length of driveway even if you are planning an automatic door. Without seeing the property this is the best advice I can give.
 
JDM said:
You could always employ an architect to do the whole thing for you from start to finish..
Cough cough... I know a good one :wink:

Morning John!

Not such a bad idea - I'll have a think..
 
Finisterre said:
would it not be easier to buy a house with a garage?

( not you dario - stamp duty makes moving specifically an expensive option, I was suggesting it to the OP)

In some cases it would yes, in this one, no, it wouldn't.
 
Stark said:
Hey JDM, good seeing you on here.

Planning Portal won't tell you what your chances are, but will give you an interactive guide about what you an do to your house under permitted development (if you have PD rights) but if you're having plans drawn up for Building Regs, you may as well apply for a Lawful Development Cert (if PD) at the same time. This helps when it comes to selling your house and solicitors enquiring on planning status etc...

Cheers Stark..

Couldnt stay away for too long..

I agree with what you say. PD rights changed in April this year but do not cover detached garages from memory so a full planning application would be required along side a buiding regulations or building notice application.
 
JaEdBa said:
JDM said:
You could always employ an architect to do the whole thing for you from start to finish..
Cough cough... I know a good one :wink:

Morning John!

Not such a bad idea - I'll have a think..

I do you special price.... cheaper than Netto.
 
Get all your cabling sorted properly as well, I put in about 20 cat5 cables and mains etc in. Great for adding CCTV, internet, alarm etc etc.
 
How any one can give advice as to what a double garage is likely to cost, without full knowledge of site information and full specification requirements, is beyond me.
 
I can only state how much my cost when I built it - and that is 12 years ago and that was 70k. The door alone was 9k, so I have no idea how you can get an entire garage done for 17k.
 
Lillywhite said:
How any one can give advice as to what a double garage is likely to cost, without full knowledge of site information and full specification requirements, is beyond me.

Typical builder giving a ball park figure and I think we all know what that means..

If I was to offer advice to anyone undertaking any buiding project it would be to get an architect on board from the offset. This ensures that the clients requirements are reflected in a package of information that can be tendered to various contractors. You will at least know that they are all pricing on the same basis and that there will be very little risk involved of costs escalating.

Competetive tendering is the best way of securing value for money and having an architect on board employed on a full contract will ensure that not only the client gets what they want but will also ensure that it has been built in accordance with the specification and details.

I would also recommend a contract to be drawn up (something like a JCT minor works) which will protect both yourself and the builder. It will cover payment terms etc so that you wont get your leg lifted or end up having to contact Domonic Littlewood. :wink:

An architect will also deal with all your local authority applications aswell taking that stress out of the equation.
 
pvr said:
I can only state how much my cost when I built it - and that is 12 years ago and that was 70k. The door alone was 9k, so I have no idea how you can get an entire garage done for 17k.

Exactly, until I recently retired I have been dealing with planning matters and as a qualified quantity surveyor giving advice on proposed cost implications. Initially all you can do is to give a 'ball park figure' but that is clearly a problem without a fairly precise specification and even on a garage the cost of a sectional, up and and over or sectional door which may be fully insulated can differ widely dependant on the client's final choice of door. Once they start talking about possibly using the roof space for storage, work area etc. then costs will escalate. There will be no permitted development rights on a garage on a terraced property in a historic place such as Stamford so once again the planners will have a big influence over what may or may not be permitted.
My advice to the OP is to approach a building consultant locally, ask him to visit the site and discuss proposals with him prior to contacting the local authority.
 
JDM said:
Lillywhite said:
How any one can give advice as to what a double garage is likely to cost, without full knowledge of site information and full specification requirements, is beyond me.

Typical builder giving a ball park figure and I think we all know what that means..

I was not suggesting that the OP obtains a 'ball park figure' from a builder but from a construction professional. :wink:
 
Lillywhite said:
JDM said:
Lillywhite said:
How any one can give advice as to what a double garage is likely to cost, without full knowledge of site information and full specification requirements, is beyond me.

Typical builder giving a ball park figure and I think we all know what that means..

I was not suggesting that the OP obtains a 'ball park figure' from a builder but from a construction professional. :wink:

Surely a builder is a construction professional? :)
 
Lillywhite said:
How any one can give advice as to what a double garage is likely to cost, without full knowledge of site information and full specification requirements, is beyond me.

I wasn't asking for a binding quotation! I'm aware of the issues of building in the area I live. I was asking for pointers from people who may've built a garage and, with hindsight, wished they'd done something differently.

You can build a house for £70k. Not a great one, but a house nevertheless. I think you can give advice, the scope for discretionary spend on a garage is not as great as a house, for one thing, you ordinarily don't have a woman involved in speccing the finish...
 
JaEdBa said:
Lillywhite said:
How any one can give advice as to what a double garage is likely to cost, without full knowledge of site information and full specification requirements, is beyond me.

I wasn't asking for a binding quotation! I'm aware of the issues of building in the area I live. I was asking for pointers from people who may've built a garage and, with hindsight, wished they'd done something differently.

Fair do's but I think with your circumstances possibly trying to construct a garage in a gap on a terraced property in Stamford a town which I know well you ought to tread carefully on anyone giving general cost advice.
 
Stuart Truman said:
Surely a builder is a construction professional? :)

The accepted term 'construction professional' is usually reserved for an architect, structural engineer, quantity surveyor, building surveyor etc. :wink:
 
Lillywhite said:
JaEdBa said:
Lillywhite said:
How any one can give advice as to what a double garage is likely to cost, without full knowledge of site information and full specification requirements, is beyond me.

I wasn't asking for a binding quotation! I'm aware of the issues of building in the area I live. I was asking for pointers from people who may've built a garage and, with hindsight, wished they'd done something differently.

Fair do's but I think with your circumstances possibly trying to construct a garage in a gap on a terraced property in Stamford a town which I know well you ought to tread carefully on anyone giving general cost advice.

Every other house has one, hence the unadopted access roads. Some are pre fab, some are brick, accept I'm proposing a progression, but it's not like I'm suggesting knocking down the george and building a petrol station! :)
 
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