Broken Again ! 35iS

[KERMIT1970]

M135 no comparison ! Quick wee car,but it's just a hatchback a fast one. The zed puts a smile on your face every time you drive it well maybe not yours lol they are thin on the ground. I looked for over a year for one without success. What warranty is left on the zed ?

 

[SO8]

M135 no comparison ! Quick wee car,but it's just a hatchback a fast one. The zed puts a smile on your face every time you drive it well maybe not yours lol they are thin on the ground. I looked for over a year for one without success. What warranty is left on the zed ?

Warranty is until June next year.

 

[Stark]

Mate I would take the refund. The biggest thing you can ever feel is regret....and you don't want to be feeling that believe me in a few months time.....

 

[Tenkujin]

I agree with Stark, take the money and get rid. It seems that the 3.5i & 3.5is have issues that affect reliability but are these issues rare?
Other owners please post the experience of 3.5 ownership.

 

[Maniac]

Can you take the hit (cost) to change? If so, then consider another car. I've had endless trouble with mine, but then I'm also a perfectionist which is never good with cars. I can't justify getting rid of it, a) I still love the car anyhow, despite all the s**t its given me and b) its depreciated madly and when I think of the loss, and think of the loss of its replacement, its just throwing money away, so I keep it.

But your situation is different, if you can get the money back without any cost to you, then I'd seriously consider this because these are very complicated cars and to be honest, really not that well made. When, and they will, things go wrong in the future, they're not cheap to fix either.

 

[KERMIT1970]

I agree with Stark, take the money and get rid. It seems that the 3.5i & 3.5is have issues that affect reliability but are these issues rare?
Other owners please post the experience of 3.5 ownership.

1st time I've heard of all these so called problems with 35 & 35is ! Think there's a few problems with the e89 as there was with the e85/86. Think this ones just a pup,a Friday car ! Lol

 

[AlanJ]

Agree with others - take the money and walk away

 

[metal licker]

I agree with Stark, take the money and get rid. It seems that the 3.5i & 3.5is have issues that affect reliability but are these issues rare?
Other owners please post the experience of 3.5 ownership.

1st time I've heard of all these so called problems with 35 & 35is ! Think there's a few problems with the e89 as there was with the e85/86. Think this ones just a pup,a Friday car ! Lol

Had no problems with the 2.3 in 3 years, had no problems in 3 months with the 35i ! Think its the nature of forums that we hear more of the negative
stories
OP sorry for the thread hijack and best of luck whatever your decision

 

[ronk]

If this car has given you grief , take the dealers offer, order a new one !

 

[Ewazix]

I'd off it quick! I've did similar with an Alfa I loved so much but once it was done I was so relived to out of it.

 

[Marky Mark]

Take the dosh and start looking again to many faults in a short space of time. The chance of a refund may not come around again :wink:

 

[SO8]

I have tried an M135i today. Auto 5 door, etc, etc.

It is no Z4 35iS but seemed as quick tbh ! Gearbox being ZF 8 speed as opposed to DCT was better. Downchanges far quicker and upshifts seemingly not a lot different to the 35iS ... an amazing box. It is geared shorter and but goes as one would expect - indecently fast for a 1 series ! It was comfortable and nice but small compared to the Z4. The noise was artificial as opposed to roof down and real. I am, however, drawn to one as I can acquire a new one with nearly every extra for £25 a month less than I am paying now for a 3 year old troublesome 30K mile 35iS !!

I never dreamed I would be able to stretch to a new one and the appeal of a new car for less outlay is big ! The term is the same as the PCP deal I have on the Z4 but obviously the guaranteed value at the end is higher so if I kept it I am in more debt ... technically.

My friends say take the money for the Z4 and wait a bit ... see what is about - but I am struggling to come up with things I like within my budget that are new enough to interest me. I like fairly new cars and the Z4 at 3 years old was an exception to my rule.

The M135i has the same great engine - albeit the newer version. It merely lacks size and image ... now, can I get over that :roll:

 

[TitanTim]

M135 no comparison ! Quick wee car,but it's just a hatchback a fast one.

Have you owned one?

IMHO the M135 is one of BMWs best performance cars for quite some time and pretty comparable to the 1M. It maybe a hatchback but a very talented one, I actually love the standard looks for making people look silly. Fabulous as the E89 is with its party frock looks chopping the roof is always a compromise and it shows, much better suited as a cruiser and why I love the M Lite in the corners

Miss looking at myself in shop windows in the Zed though

Tim.

 

[TitanTim]

I have tried an M135i today. Auto 5 door, etc, etc.

It is no Z4 35iS but seemed as quick tbh ! Gearbox being ZF 8 speed as opposed to DCT was better. Downchanges far quicker and upshifts seemingly not a lot different to the 35iS ... an amazing box. It is geared shorter and but goes as one would expect - indecently fast for a 1 series ! It was comfortable and nice but small compared to the Z4. The noise was artificial as opposed to roof down and real. I am, however, drawn to one as I can acquire a new one with nearly every extra for £25 a month less than I am paying now for a 3 year old troublesome 30K mile 35iS !!

I never dreamed I would be able to stretch to a new one and the appeal of a new car for less outlay is big ! The term is the same as the PCP deal I have on the Z4 but obviously the guaranteed value at the end is higher so if I kept it I am in more debt ... technically.

My friends say take the money for the Z4 and wait a bit ... see what is about - but I am struggling to come up with things I like within my budget that are new enough to interest me. I like fairly new cars and the Z4 at 3 years old was an exception to my rule.

The M135i has the same great engine - albeit the newer version. It merely lacks size and image ... now, can I get over that :roll:

Did the demo you try have the Adaptive M Suspension as it makes a marked difference to the feel of the M135i, first option I ticked. As for looks I miss the Zed in that dep't but I've never regretted changing and find the 1er alot more alive than the Zed ever did. Horses for courses, if you like a cruiser the Zed is fab but if want some fun with the performance in the corners I would choose the 1er. Added bonus is everyday useability. Maybe one day I'll buy an old E89 to replace the Z3

Tim.

 

[Angie4m]

The M135i has the same great engine - albeit the newer version. It merely lacks size and image ... now, can I get over that :roll:

Actually it's not. If you had been trying a 1M then yes, the same engine but the M135i isn't the same and it's a twin scroll too not twin turbo but hey ho.

However sounds to me in your heart you know you have to let the car go. As much as I love my car if it was as much trouble as yours and I had the offer to have it taken back off me for what I paid I'd bite their hand off. Now I know your looking at another BM, is this because it's the typical BMW we will buy it back but you need to buy another BMW chat or will hey actually return your money? If it's the latter then possibly you want to look at another brand and like your mate has advised have a look about. You never know what might turn up in a day or two.


And Tim, you went from a 2.0 E89 to the M135i whilst SOB is looking to go from a 35is, the top spec E89 to a M135i so your comparison to his maybe a little different in terms of how much more 'alive' the 1 series feels over the E89

 

[SO8]

The M135i has the same great engine - albeit the newer version. It merely lacks size and image ... now, can I get over that :roll:

Actually it's not. If you had been trying a 1M then yes, the same engine but the M135i isn't the same and it's a twin scroll too not twin turbo but hey ho.

Now I know your looking at another BM, is this because it's the typical BMW we will buy it back but you need to buy another BMW chat or will hey actually return your money?

Sorry, I should have been clearer - I do know the difference in the engines - I was more meaning the M135i is the latest 'version' as in N55 single turbo as opposed to N54 twin turbo.

As for the dealer - they will just buy the car back for the price I bought it for - no need for me to stay with them/BMW at all. I get the money and can buy anything I want. Exactly what that may be if the Z4 goes is another matter !!

 

[TitanTim]

The M135i has the same great engine - albeit the newer version. It merely lacks size and image ... now, can I get over that :roll:

Actually it's not. If you had been trying a 1M then yes, the same engine but the M135i isn't the same and it's a twin scroll too not twin turbo but hey ho.

However sounds to me in your heart you know you have to let the car go. As much as I love my car if it was as much trouble as yours and I had the offer to have it taken back off me for what I paid I'd bite their hand off. Now I know your looking at another BM, is this because it's the typical BMW we will buy it back but you need to buy another BMW chat or will hey actually return your money? If it's the latter then possibly you want to look at another brand and like your mate has advised have a look about. You never know what might turn up in a day or two.


And Tim, you went from a 2.0 E89 to the M135i whilst SOB is looking to go from a 35is, the top spec E89 to a M135i so your comparison to his maybe a little different in terms of how much more 'alive' the 1 series feels over the E89

He would be changing from a top spec E89 to a top spec 1 Series, not sure what the difference is lol, in all honesty I don't think its a step down apart from the looks and as for desiribility its still a BMW Isn't the M Sport suspension the same across the E89 range regardless of engine model so unsure handling wise that the 35is handles any differently to my old 2.0 but stand to be corrected. I thought the only difference between between the 35i and 35is was slightly extra ponies? In terms of comparing my M135i to my old 2.0 Zed, I'm not really comparing performance as you can't but I'm finding handling and refinement an awful lot better, probably why I'm loving it so much. I will say though when I'm in the 1er and see an E89 there is still a twinge of missing the Zed.

Agree though, get rid of the Zed if its becoming troublesome because it completely ruins the ownership experience. The rattly engine and loud whine on my old Zed got to the point where I actually started to hate the flipping thing and was glad to get rid. It wouldn't put me off getting another as its more than likely a one off.

Tim.

 

[Angie4m]

The M135i has the same great engine - albeit the newer version. It merely lacks size and image ... now, can I get over that :roll:

Actually it's not. If you had been trying a 1M then yes, the same engine but the M135i isn't the same and it's a twin scroll too not twin turbo but hey ho.

Now I know your looking at another BM, is this because it's the typical BMW we will buy it back but you need to buy another BMW chat or will hey actually return your money?

Sorry, I should have been clearer - I do know the difference in the engines - I was more meaning the M135i is the latest 'version' as in N55 single turbo as opposed to N54 twin turbo.

As for the dealer - they will just buy the car back for the price I bought it for - no need for me to stay with them/BMW at all. I get the money and can buy anything I want. Exactly what that may be if the Z4 goes is another matter !!

Well I wish you well in whatever you decide to do. Like I said you never know what might appear for sale in the coming days.

 

[ronk]

And Tim, you went from a 2.0 E89 to the M135i whilst SOB is looking to go from a 35is, the top spec E89 to a M135i so your comparison to his maybe a little different in terms of how much more 'alive' the 1 series feels over the E89

Two very very different cars in all respects so it's impossible to make a qualified comparison.
As good as the M135 is, look and performs, it just looks like another euro box.

 

[KERMIT1970]

I have tried an M135i today. Auto 5 door, etc, etc.

It is no Z4 35iS but seemed as quick tbh ! Gearbox being ZF 8 speed as opposed to DCT was better. Downchanges far quicker and upshifts seemingly not a lot different to the 35iS ... an amazing box. It is geared shorter and but goes as one would expect - indecently fast for a 1 series ! It was comfortable and nice but small compared to the Z4. The noise was artificial as opposed to roof down and real. I am, however, drawn to one as I can acquire a new one with nearly every extra for £25 a month less than I am paying now for a 3 year old troublesome 30K mile 35iS !!

I never dreamed I would be able to stretch to a new one and the appeal of a new car for less outlay is big ! The term is the same as the PCP deal I have on the Z4 but obviously the guaranteed value at the end is higher so if I kept it I am in more debt ... technically.

My friends say take the money for the Z4 and wait a bit ... see what is about - but I am struggling to come up with things I like within my budget that are new enough to interest me. I like fairly new cars and the Z4 at 3 years old was an exception to my rule.

The M135i has the same great engine - albeit the newer version. It merely lacks size and image ... now, can I get over that :roll:

What about the M235 what can they do with that ? I had both M135 & M235 out for test drives.had them both for a day or 2. Both had adaptive suspension 135 was manual & 235 auto,auto wins hands down. Both drove great & I liked them both,but M235 looks great, M135 is just a hatchback IMO.