Bring on the snow :-))

[Breaker]

Would have been no good having winters on my Z4 as I used to get frozen out of the car half the time!

 

[Breaker]

- RRS comes as std with a very summer biased tyre ---

That's my point - The fella in the Alps couldn't stop his RRs on the downhills. He was a 60 year old with years of alpine driving under his belt - The weakest link was his tyres.

All the electronics and driver aids just mask the traction problem but they can't do anything about mass and velocity!

I see your point. Continentals on my Evoque. Just looked at the Conti website about winter tyres. I'll see how bad it gets here as it rarely gets that bad for that long near me.. May invest in some.

http://www.continental-tyres.co.uk/www/tyres_uk_en/themes/4x4-tyres/winter-tyres/4x4_why_winter_en.html

 

[ZermattV]

In LR circles these guys always get a good reputation

http://www.vredestein.com their wintrac Extrem usually sells out each winter

 

[Jembo]

I stayed at an hotel in the Italian alps last year and the owner had a Range Rover sport fitted with the standard Pirelli rubber - If I say that he used his wife's fiesta in the winter that says it all. He told me that the RR sport was like a 3 tonne sledge on the downhills. He said that it scared him!

Stopping is probably more important than progress in the slippy stuff - I reckon the zed with proper rubber on all four will be the better bet in that respect.

I have wintracs on my D3 and cant fault it.

Sounds like the guy needed an RRS offload driving course to teach him how to use the various systems on the car, especially the hill decent control! I've driven the new RRS on the off road course at Gaydon and that thing will do anything!

Doesn't get this deep near me so I should be OK.

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What a joke... my Shogun used to be exactly the same if you put your foot on the brake - ABS would cut in and you'd actually accelerate.

However, despite running BF Goodrich road tyres, if you'd change down in Low ratio & take your foot off the gas the thing would slow down like it was dragging a ship anchor, whether it was steep hill of ice or snow - was unbelievable

Sounds like he needed a lesson on how to drive the thing

 

[ronk]

In LR circles these guys always get a good reputation

http://www.vredestein.com their wintrac Extrem usually sells out each winter

I've got them on my D3 and yes they are tremendous - They are on all year long and still more than acceptable for winter use at 20k. The standard fit Pirelli rubber was down to 2mm at 20k.

If I need winter rubber for the zed - they would be my first choice.

 

[ZermattV]

Yep the std Pirelli on D3s wears at an incredible rate - I remember it well

 

[ronk]

A point worth remembering if you have a car (as opposed to a 4x4) fitted with winter rubber.

Dont be over confident by reversing out over a pile of snow just because you can! I did this in my wifes Quattro two winters ago and found that the plastic engine under tray gets hard packed with snow and busts off! I'm not sure if the Z4 has an under tray but if it does my guess that it will be moulded plastic!

It cost me a few quid to replace. :x

 

[Breaker]

I stayed at an hotel in the Italian alps last year and the owner had a Range Rover sport fitted with the standard Pirelli rubber - If I say that he used his wife's fiesta in the winter that says it all. He told me that the RR sport was like a 3 tonne sledge on the downhills. He said that it scared him!

Stopping is probably more important than progress in the slippy stuff - I reckon the zed with proper rubber on all four will be the better bet in that respect.

I have wintracs on my D3 and cant fault it.

Sounds like the guy needed an RRS offload driving course to teach him how to use the various systems on the car, especially the hill decent control! I've driven the new RRS on the off road course at Gaydon and that thing will do anything!

Doesn't get this deep near me so I should be OK.

What a joke... my Shogun used to be exactly the same if you put your foot on the brake - ABS would cut in and you'd actually accelerate.

However, despite running BF Goodrich road tyres, if you'd change down in Low ratio & take your foot off the gas the thing would slow down like it was dragging a ship anchor, whether it was steep hill of ice or snow - was unbelievable

Sounds like he needed a lesson on how to drive the thing

Agreed.

 

[Breaker]

A point worth remembering if you have a car (as opposed to a 4x4) fitted with winter rubber.

Dont be over confident by reversing out over a pile of snow just because you can! I did this in my wifes Quattro two winters ago and found that the plastic engine under tray gets hard packed with snow and busts off! I'm not sure if the Z4 has an under tray but if it does my guess that it will be moulded plastic!

It cost me a few quid to replace. :x

Good point. Sort of happened to me with my old Z4 Coupe. Came across a road with reasonable snow still in the middle of it. Even driving slowly the car bottomed out on the now and then on the compacted snow and turned it briefly into a giant sled! No control!

 

[Keithark]

I was going to say from down here on the Isle of Wight " What's snow ? " then I remembered :


View of our back garden a couple of years ago :x

Hi gov , where are you on the island, in in shorwell, and yes the snow was bad!!

 

[mikey476]

I'll stick with the standard 19s and run-flat rubber... Worked well enough in last years snow and I'll save a fortune! :driving: :rofl:

 

[TitanTim]

I'll stick with the standard 19s and run-flat rubber... Worked well enough in last years snow and I'll save a fortune! :driving: :rofl:

You will find when you eventually have undertake emergency braking the difference between smacking into someone and not :wink:

Tim.

 

[Nanu]

Which garage offered you that deal? I got a quote from Stratstone on the silverlink for the same arrangements and was quoted £1600.

Will be interested in hearing how they perform so don't forget an update.

 

[TitanTim]

Which garage offered you that deal? I got a quote from Stratstone on the silverlink for the same arrangements and was quoted £1600.

Will be interested in hearing how they perform so don't forget an update.

Thats good, my dealer wanted £1750 for the 17s on winter runflats, £30 to swap and store and same again in the spring to swap back. Without further adoo the Zed is stored over winter lol.

Tim.

 

[ronk]

I'll stick with the standard 19s and run-flat rubber... Worked well enough in last years snow and I'll save a fortune! :driving: :rofl:

Factor in Insurance excess and increased premium and see how much you save!

 

[TitanTim]

I'll stick with the standard 19s and run-flat rubber... Worked well enough in last years snow and I'll save a fortune! :driving: :rofl:

Factor in Insurance excess and increased premium and see how much you save!

I don't know if the E89 on summer runflats is different to any other BMW as never tried it in a foot of snow but after the bad winter of 2010 in my E87 which was a death trap on wheels I wouldn't want to find out again :|

Tim.

 

[Brasseye]

Rear wheel drive and hills are never a good combination in the snow and ice.

 

[TitanTim]

Rear wheel drive and hills are never a good combination in the snow and ice.

Any rear wheel drive should scoot up hills with winters on, even my Z3 with all seasons on was amazing in the snow earlier in the year, had no probs in 6" up hills etc.

Tim.

 

[ronk]

Rear wheel drive and hills are never a good combination in the snow and ice.

Any rear wheel drive should scoot up hills with winters on, even my Z3 with all seasons on was amazing in the snow earlier in the year, had no probs in 6" up hills etc.

Tim.

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Many years ago I had an MGB with Pirelli 35's M&S on and it was fantastic! It would go where front wheel drive cars wouldn't go.

Since that time (early 80's) I have proper rubber on most of my cars for that very reason.

 

[toonmal]

Which garage offered you that deal? I got a quote from Stratstone on the silverlink for the same arrangements and was quoted £1600.

Will be interested in hearing how they perform so don't forget an update.

Mine were from Silverlink...you've got to barter :lol: