Bring on the snow :-))
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My first td4 pure had all season Pirelli scorpion verde tyres that performed brilliantly in snow, but my new sd4 dynamic has continental cross contacts which I believe are more summer/road biased. Should find out how they perform this week as it's currently snowing in Redcar which is only 25 miles away...TitanTim said:
Winter boots (michy alpin a4s) went on the zed at the weekend so I'm looking forward to seeing how they work in the white stuff too.
I stayed at an hotel in the Italian alps last year and the owner had a Range Rover sport fitted with the standard Pirelli rubber - If I say that he used his wife's fiesta in the winter that says it all. He told me that the RR sport was like a 3 tonne sledge on the downhills. He said that it scared him!
Stopping is probably more important than progress in the slippy stuff - I reckon the zed with proper rubber on all four will be the better bet in that respect.
I have wintracs on my D3 and cant fault it.
Stopping is probably more important than progress in the slippy stuff - I reckon the zed with proper rubber on all four will be the better bet in that respect.
I have wintracs on my D3 and cant fault it.
Bring it on???? It's here already for us 
This was two 1/2 weeks ago crossing the Lecht ski centre, with the roof down might I add 
And this was this morning.... the ///M is tucked up in the garage. But I have winters on the 5 series, wouldn't be without them.
This was two 1/2 weeks ago crossing the Lecht ski centre, with the roof down might I add And this was this morning.... the ///M is tucked up in the garage. But I have winters on the 5 series, wouldn't be without them.
ronk said:
The sooner the better, certainly in Scotland anyway. People are making the shift though, big uptake in the last couple of years.
You insurance small print will say "vehicle must be fitted with appropriate tyres for the conditions". I'm surprised they've not started using that clause to get out of paying up!!
ronk said:
Sounds like the guy needed an RRS offload driving course to teach him how to use the various systems on the car, especially the hill decent control!
I've driven the new RRS on the off road course at Gaydon and that thing will do anything!Doesn't get this deep near me so I should be OK.
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Breaker said:
^ This
Breaker said:ronk said:
Sounds like the guy needed an RRS offload driving course to teach him how to use the various systems on the car, especially the hill decent control!
As an RRS owner and ex D3 owner the RRS will do almost anything that a Discovery will do ( the new one probably more) but only with the right tyres on - HDC does help but it's better with full winters. The Grass Gravel Snow with HDC has got me through a lot of snow up here . But it only helps if the route you are trying to take is not blocked by a jackknifed lorry or someone out in a RWD BMW without winters on ( runs for tin hat)
I guess it makes sense 4x4 manufacturers fitting all season tyres otherwise it will be 4 wheel instead of 2 wheel drifts. Its shame all manufacturers don't fit all season tyres than summers as the positives far outweigh the negatives IMHO and far less likely the country would grind to halt with 2 inches of snow. The Z3 is a blinder in snow on its all seasons
Tim.
Tim.
You're right but they quite often don't - RRS comes as std with a very summer biased tyre and whilst in the local BMW dealership taking photos of the Z4GT3 I almost spilt my free coffee when I saw what was fitted on the X50d M the X5 has a bad reputation up here for winter grip but it's probably due to the numbers still running on low profile 21 and 22 inch summer tyres.
Autocar did an interesting test last week on the Ford Kuga both 2WD and 4WD, the 4WD with winters monstered the slope at the snowdome but the 4WD on summers were roundly beaten by the 2WD Kuga on winters. The only thing I'd have liked to see would have been a permanent 4WD system being used as a comparison as the Kuga was losing grip on the summers before the 4WD had chance to engage- this wouldn't happen in a freelander or evoque .
For me the advantage of a traditional 4WD is also ground clearance - in the side roads up here it can build up that even a 4WD car struggles because of the depth .
Autocar did an interesting test last week on the Ford Kuga both 2WD and 4WD, the 4WD with winters monstered the slope at the snowdome but the 4WD on summers were roundly beaten by the 2WD Kuga on winters. The only thing I'd have liked to see would have been a permanent 4WD system being used as a comparison as the Kuga was losing grip on the summers before the 4WD had chance to engage- this wouldn't happen in a freelander or evoque .
For me the advantage of a traditional 4WD is also ground clearance - in the side roads up here it can build up that even a 4WD car struggles because of the depth .
ZermattV said:
That's my point - The fella in the Alps couldn't stop his RRs on the downhills. He was a 60 year old with years of alpine driving under his belt - The weakest link was his tyres.
All the electronics and driver aids just mask the traction problem but they can't do anything about mass and velocity!
