Brexit questions / post them here
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Presumably the guaranteed £75k protection for savings against the failure of banking organisations ( that is currently an EU directive ) will continue for the 2 years we are likely to remain prior to finally withdrawing from the EU ??? What is likely to happen then - do I need to install a safe under the bed ?
markeg said:
If there was a policy of 2/3 majority that should also apply to general elections also I seem to remember almost 2/3 didnt vote for the tory government it appears to me that a large portion of the countries problems are a result of a substantial majority of people feeling that they have no representation in the decisions made by the people in power
A general election has a different election system whilst with a referendum, every vote counts - with a general election it depends on the region.
Scotland delivered a lot of MPs with fewer total votes than UKIP, so the voting system is not the same and therefore the 2/3 rule would not work there.
Scotland delivered a lot of MPs with fewer total votes than UKIP, so the voting system is not the same and therefore the 2/3 rule would not work there.
Flyingfifer said:jabber said:
Ultimately it depends on the conduct of each side for how smoothly the process would move.
I have always believed strongly that Scotland needs to leave the UK, I want to have very close relations with our neighbours/family in the rest of the UK but that relationship must be as equals not with Scotland as a subordinate.
markeg said:
It will gain traction, there is still a huge desire for independence.
The legislative process has already begun to ensure the vote can happen prior to the UK departure from the EU.
If Scotland were to leave the uk would they have their own army/navy As I understand it the snp are against the trident misslie submarines so presumably they would relocate from Scotland to an english base. Would there be boarder posts and passport checks, as it is with the uk leaving the eu there are so many unanswered questions and I doubt that we can count on the polititions to give us a balanced factual debate.
pvr said:
To me that is the problem with the electoral system a persons vote should mean something and not depend on which part of the country they live in, take me as an example I am 60 and have voted in every election since I was 18 and not once have I had a MP that represented my political view it is small wonder that there are such low turn outs at general elections
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markeg said:PerryGunn said:
You trying to be all latin on me, Perry?I did check the other day for the plural of referendum, and found this:
some smarty-arse latin reference said:
Nope - just going by my grammar school Latin lessons... :wink:
some other smarty-arse latin reference said:
and, after several years of severe beatings at the hand of grammar masters, you'd literally never catch me using literally anything other than literally :wink:
jabber said:
Correct, the whitepaper prior to the 2014 vote dealt with this from the SNP perspective. We would need to act to build up a defensive force to protect Scotland and that would not include nukes. The movement of Trident would be mandatory however the SNP said that they wouldnt accelerate this to a point where it would be unsafe, the rUK would need to immediately begin preparing a new base however in the interim Trident could remain in Scotland.
Given the UK's choice to leave the EU it is very possible that there would be borders now, its not a certainty as various agreements could be put in place but ultimately that will boil again down to the cooperation of each side.
We certainly cant and unfortunately the UK government and No campaign used that as a weapon, they actively prevented many major questions from being answered (like the Scottish EU membership).
I think the whole campaign on both sides was very shallow and didn't explore what next, leaving the populace as a whole uneducated on all the issues. From the remain camp there should have been a lot more questions to the leave camp about what would happen next but they were always shouted down about projecting "fear" whenever this was raised.
I haven't heard much from Boris or Gove since the vote. I guess their next priory is working out how to get Boris the PM job.
We are now left with a complete vacumn as people try and "think" of a plan after the event which to my mind is crazy. I may be a little "organised" but I don't go on holiday with as little plan on what is going to happen next!
No matter there is little we can do now and Cameron at least has bought us all some time by saying he won't trigger clause 50 and he is here until October.
I am going to have to stop posting as there are three threads and I think we are all starting to go around in circles. I am anyway
I haven't heard much from Boris or Gove since the vote. I guess their next priory is working out how to get Boris the PM job.
We are now left with a complete vacumn as people try and "think" of a plan after the event which to my mind is crazy. I may be a little "organised" but I don't go on holiday with as little plan on what is going to happen next!
No matter there is little we can do now and Cameron at least has bought us all some time by saying he won't trigger clause 50 and he is here until October.
I am going to have to stop posting as there are three threads and I think we are all starting to go around in circles. I am anyway
We've can still play the euro lottery don't worry!Baza said:
Personally I think leaving this decision to the general public was stupid I bet a huge majority had no idea why they were voting other than a feeling or reading a few things online. I'm genuinely worried about the future of the UK as I doubt anyone can actually say what's going to happen. Why are we going backwards?
sammysquid
Member
I think there is such an absence of a plan or a leader.
I think Nicola sturgeon is the only person who is out there. - I don't like her but that's an aside.
my humble opinion the problem with the issue of Scotland is they voted to stay given the changes promised and these promises haven't happened. It maybe mirrors what has happened with the uk and Europe. We think we are better without because we pay to much to Europe and they make our decisions... and I get the impressions the scots feel that way about the English. From what I have seen the tories haven't come through for the scots and so I can see why they want to leave.
I want them to stay, I think it makes sense for them to have more power and to be more independent but I fear this vote is sturgeons way of getting what she wants.
If they did leave, do we think they would have to give up the pound? given we might need to be more in control to control inflation?
We would have to have borders surely?
Is there a way we can have the best of both worlds? if Scotland stayed in the EU then could we allow companies to use trade via them and then they could use trade via us when needed?
Last question.... would this current situation stop you buying a house right now?
I think Nicola sturgeon is the only person who is out there. - I don't like her but that's an aside.
my humble opinion the problem with the issue of Scotland is they voted to stay given the changes promised and these promises haven't happened. It maybe mirrors what has happened with the uk and Europe. We think we are better without because we pay to much to Europe and they make our decisions... and I get the impressions the scots feel that way about the English. From what I have seen the tories haven't come through for the scots and so I can see why they want to leave.
I want them to stay, I think it makes sense for them to have more power and to be more independent but I fear this vote is sturgeons way of getting what she wants.
If they did leave, do we think they would have to give up the pound? given we might need to be more in control to control inflation?
We would have to have borders surely?
Is there a way we can have the best of both worlds? if Scotland stayed in the EU then could we allow companies to use trade via them and then they could use trade via us when needed?
Last question.... would this current situation stop you buying a house right now?
Paulwirral
Active member
DanStarr said:
I'm with you by the way . It's going to be interesting to see who and / or which party steps up to the mark and sorts this out . It could be a place in history or they could ruin them / their party for a long time to come .
I can't help but think the remaining eu members may choose to teach England a lesson to deter other members of the eu from doing the same ?
I think Cameron has done a great job made some hard decisions you can't keep everyone happy. I'm sad to see him go but the fact he's resigning to me shows he's stuck to his guns. Only time will tell and I hope things work out but at the moment seems like we've divided the whole of the UK and to me it's not looking great.Paulwirral said:
Paulwirral said:
Had a few days to grasp & study the situation now , no reason why its a backward step for the Uk
As I see it the UK was just the first to get a taxi from a party before the champagne ran out :wink:
Italy are already suggesting a poll for their people (although to gauge reaction , not to actually leave )
2017 will see the back of the left in France , Hollande will be up the road so fast then in comes the right wing already dangling the promise of a referendum or "Frexit" ( sound familiar :wink: )
Now that may take 2-3 years but should the vote go for out I can't see the Euro as we know it now surviving after that ? In the meantime I dare say others of the remaining 27 will have to give their own voters a choice , , , interesting times
mr wilks said:
That's exactly my opinion. The EU is finished, and sure, we've got uncertainty and possibly difficult times ahead, but now we've agreed to break free, we can be the first ex-EU country to sort our future out, and be at the front of the queue in getting deals around the world rather than at the back.
The UK has been overdue a recession and our so-called illusory "booming" economy is only as a consequence of rapid population growth, largely from mass immigration, rather than genuine growth from around consolidated base. What the UK needs is economic stability not perpetual growth.
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