Brakes / MOT failure

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Swami

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Hi all

Kwik Fit have failed me on brake pads and are implying there's a 90% chance the discs will need changing too (this is the rear strangely) due to corrosion! My car sits out a lot so I expect them to be corroded but I thought that was normal, should discs need changing at 39k miles?

I feel like I am over a barrel really, I am happy to do the pads but I would have literally no idea by looking if the discs needed doing too or if they are just trying to rinse me. They say they will only be able to tell once they've taken the pads off, by that stage I can't really say I'm taking it elsewhere so it seems clever to me.

Any advice welcome on how often discs should be replaced and I also had a question on the pads after looking at euro car parts. There are 4 brands for sale: Textar, Pagid, ATE and Eicher, anyone any experience on which is better?

Thanks!
 
They need to measure the disc thickness to see if it is worn. Give it a hard drive and use the brakes properly to clean off the corrosion :driving:

Seems likely at that mileage if they are the original discs and pads. As for replacement I would go for either geniune bmw parts or premium brands such as (Ferrodo, Pagid, Brembo, EBC etc).
 
The corrosion business sounds like bull, as long as the thickness is within spec and the surface isn't badly grooved or pitted they could be fine, although modern high performance discs are 'soft' and can wear at a similar rate to pads.

What thickness do Kwik Fit say your pads are? I had a tyre monkey recommending a change of pads and disc at 36k miles the other day and the dealership said they were fine when it went in for service (stealerships don’t look up a chance like that very often!). I also had a bust up with an MOT station a couple of years ago who failed my classic on pads... and I had just fitted new ones during the re-build. A joint inspection on the ramp got a red faced apology and free MOT.

If in doubt I would get them to measure and do a visual with you, or get a second opinion.
 
As above not uncommon for disks to need replacing at the same time as pads, you will need to measure to be sure. 21mm min thickness on my fron t disks IIRC it's stamped on the disk so easy to find.
 
Thanks all, I didn't actually get a measurement of the pads, just a fail note saying they were below the (1.5 mm?) limit.

Have gone for OEM pads and await them to be changed for a second opinion on the discs after giving them a bit of stick to 'help' the corrosion!

Reassured though that if the second opinion from the Indie says they need doing that it's probably the case.

Cheers again
 
Wouldnt take my car anywhere near Kwik Fit, this kind of tatic is becoming to common and before you know it you've paid out for new disks, pads, lines fluid etc...
 
Took my old car to Kwik Fit, Failed on 10 items and they were asking £500 to fix everything and get it MOT ready.

Waited two weeks as required and took it elsewhere. Passed straight away with no issues. Strange that :?
 
chrismann85 said:
Took my old car to Kwik Fit, Failed on 10 items and they were asking £500 to fix everything and get it MOT ready.

Waited two weeks as required and took it elsewhere. Passed straight away with no issues. Strange that :?
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I was about to say, can't think of a WORSE place to get a car MOT'd. :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown:
 
Painful lesson learnt! BUT, in their defence, I was told my car would fail its MOT by BMW for having Z4M wheels on my Z4, and it was Kwik Fit who said that was ridiculous and would pass it.

Got pads changed at an indie who said the discs looked fine, so it could have been worse...

Kwik Fit are clever to offer cheap MOTs to suck in the suckers!
 
Remember watching BBC Watchdog about 4 weeks ago when they exposed Kwik Fits practices

I would stay well away.
 
Swami said:
Painful lesson learnt! BUT, in their defence, I was told my car would fail its MOT by BMW for having Z4M wheels on my Z4, and it was Kwik Fit who said that was ridiculous and would pass it.

Got pads changed at an indie who said the discs looked fine, so it could have been worse...

Kwik Fit are clever to offer cheap MOTs to suck in the suckers!
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Glad you got sorted elsewhere, but I wonder on what basis Kwik Fit could conjure up Z4M wheels being a BMW failure??? Sounds like more scaremongery to ensure you stay with them and pay up.
 
cj10jeeper said:
Swami said:
Painful lesson learnt! BUT, in their defence, I was told my car would fail its MOT by BMW for having Z4M wheels on my Z4, and it was Kwik Fit who said that was ridiculous and would pass it.

Got pads changed at an indie who said the discs looked fine, so it could have been worse...

Kwik Fit are clever to offer cheap MOTs to suck in the suckers!
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Glad you got sorted elsewhere, but I wonder on what basis Kwik Fit could conjure up Z4M wheels being a BMW failure??? Sounds like more scaremongery to ensure you stay with them and pay up.
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I initally read it like you CJ, but I think Swami is saying that is what BMW said, not Kwik Fit.
 
peddy said:
cj10jeeper said:
Swami said:
Painful lesson learnt! BUT, in their defence, I was told my car would fail its MOT by BMW for having Z4M wheels on my Z4, and it was Kwik Fit who said that was ridiculous and would pass it.

Got pads changed at an indie who said the discs looked fine, so it could have been worse...

Kwik Fit are clever to offer cheap MOTs to suck in the suckers!
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Glad you got sorted elsewhere, but I wonder on what basis Kwik Fit could conjure up Z4M wheels being a BMW failure??? Sounds like more scaremongery to ensure you stay with them and pay up.
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I initally read it like you CJ, but I think Swami is saying that is what BMW said, not Kwik Fit.
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Yes - my error. Didn't read it well enough and experience led to me assume that would be a Kwik fit statement :rofl:

My question woudl be of BMW then as to why a fail just for changing wheel type unles there was interference with any part of the suspension, bodywork, etc.?
 
I'm told that if a car fails an MOT and a fail certificate is issued and that car is presented at another MOT station, as soon as the operator puts the reg no. into the system, the previously failed items are flagged.
 
ronk said:
I'm told that if a car fails an MOT and a fail certificate is issued and that car is presented at another MOT station, as soon as the operator puts the reg no. into the system, the previously failed items are flagged.
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That is certainly going to be the case given even Joe public can see all MOT's - pass fail and advisory on the DVLA site. Since MOT stations are connected online then I'm sure they'll all show as soon as the car is identified
 
Once its failed, there would I'm sure, be a lot of red tape to demonstrate that a wrongly identified defective part was infact prefectly ok. The lure of a cheap MOT test might not b such a good deal,

I think it best to stick with a known and trusted garage or a main dealer. Its not worth the riskto save a tenner!

BMW should take a leaf out of the Audi dealerships book of PR, If the car is serviced with Audi agent - the MOT is FOC. :thumbsup:
 
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