Brakes e86 and e85
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The brakes on my E85 feel great (brembo pads and discs) there's loads of progressive stopping power. Just need to press further and a little harder to access big stopping power compared to more modern cars which feel grabby (at the top of the pedal travel) in comparison.
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Rusky said:LordOxygen said:
Yeah trouble is i think that top end grab is what i am missing.
It sounds that way. I actually prefer my Z4's brakes compared to our 2 modern daily drivers as they are more progressive.
Try an emergency stop on an empty road and bury the brake pedal into the floor. (Assuming pads and discs are ok), there's loads of force in the bottom half of the pedel's travel.
I know what your saying about modern brakes and how they can be very grabby. Porsche's brakes are a good example of the servo assistance being reduced compared with the modern norm. At first you don't think the thing will stop but then your get used to them and realise they have plenty of stopping power they're deliberately like that to allow the driver to better modulate the brakes. However it goes without saying that when you really stamp on Porsche's 4/6 pots they do really stop you. However this is where I have to agree with Rusky and say i think pre 3.0 facelift brakes differ from something like the Porsche's in that although they may both have reduced servo assistance which helps you modulate braking and feel less grabby they simply don't have the outright stopping power of post 3.0. I really notice this when I drive my wife's 1 series for example, which has the option m sport brakes. 340mm disc alround with 4 pots and 2 pot calipers. The f21 and the e85 arent massively different in weight but boy the 1 series really stops compared with my zed. Although it does feel a little over servo assisted when compared to the zed.LordOxygen said:Rusky said:LordOxygen said:
Yeah trouble is i think that top end grab is what i am missing.
It sounds that way. I actually prefer my Z4's brakes compared to our 2 modern daily drivers as they are more progressive.
Try an emergency stop on an empty road and bury the brake pedal into the floor. (Assuming pads and discs are ok), there's loads of force in the bottom half of the pedel's travel.
Now what would be nice is if someone worked out that there was something akin to the E6x 530i brakes (that are used on the Z4m) used on a fairly run of the mill model, that were a straight fit on our non M zeds and we're available from breakers for peanuts. Then we would have a way of getting Z4m rivalling 345mm fronts and 300mm rears as a cheap upgrade!
LordOxygen said:Rusky said:LordOxygen said:
Yeah trouble is i think that top end grab is what i am missing.
It sounds that way. I actually prefer my Z4's brakes compared to our 2 modern daily drivers as they are more progressive.
Try an emergency stop on an empty road and bury the brake pedal into the floor. (Assuming pads and discs are ok), there's loads of force in the bottom half of the pedel's travel.
I prefer the Zed's progressiveness too - In the family bus, CG Grand Picasso, going from the Zed to the school run I nearly put my head through the screen the first time I use the bakes as they bite very hard with little pedal pressure. However the ultimate stopping power isn't a patch on the Zed, which will stop on a dime so to speak..
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Ducklakeview said:
We have a brand new Mazda 2 here at the moment, the brakes are *way* too sharp imo.
Anyone wanting the same effect in an old Zed just needs to use their left foot to brake, that will stop it dead at any speed.
