Brake pedal switch

Scooba_Steve

Elite
 NW London & Somerset
Bit of a random one.

I consider myself to be king of the light breakers on the road. Having used brake light reflections in cars behind i think that i am getting braking effort before the brake lights come on.

Less than ideal, so has anyone adjusted the switch position, if it is even possible?
 
Scooba_Steve said:
Bit of a random one.

I consider myself to be king of the light breakers on the road. Having used brake light reflections in cars behind i think that i am getting braking effort before the brake lights come on.

Less than ideal, so has anyone adjusted the switch position, if it is even possible?

Are you sure it’s a mechanical switch & not a pressure activated one? The brake lights vary in intensity according to the brake force deployed which makes me think it’s not a traditional switch :?
Rob
 
I think it's either a hall sensor or a pressure activated switch, I've noticed the same with mine. Just in cinema so will look later.

Mike
 
Surprisingly, it's switches on both the brake and clutch (clutch to disengage cruise) doesn't look like they or the bracket are adjustable though, other than bending the bracket?

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Mike
 
Looks like the switches are a twist and lock for into the bracket. I'd elongate the two mounting holes to give a bit of adjustment, or, if the brake pedal rod is threaded, perhaps shorten it a couple of turns?

Mike
 
The switch itself sits in a ratchet mechanism. Fiddly to adjust but leaves a fair amount of range. I had this problem too, spent my first month with only brake lights when I tried to stand it on it’s nose...
 
Smartbear said:
The brake lights vary in intensity according to the brake force deployed which makes me think it’s not a traditional switch :?
Rob

On an E85/86????

You sure??
 
VRSteve said:
Smartbear said:
The brake lights vary in intensity according to the brake force deployed which makes me think it’s not a traditional switch :?
Rob

On an E85/86????

You sure??

Yeah, there are extra sections of the taillights which illuminate when significant force is applied.
 
Not 100% but I think the brake force illumination element only comes into effect when the abs is activated. Can't check on mine as have coded brake light donuts instead.

Mike
 
BFD is activated by either ABS or deceleration or both. Two options for decel sensor but i have no idea which ones they are.
I can always send you my BFD dump Mike, have the third brake flashing, vid on YouTube.
 
Scooba_Steve said:
BFD is activated by either ABS or deceleration or both. Two options for decel sensor but i have no idea which ones they are.
I can always send you my BFD dump Mike, have the third brake flashing, vid on YouTube.

:thumbsup:

Mike
 
Ducklakeview said:

My current LCZ trace filtered on BFD options, sorry for the formatting. This gives flashing third brake light on BFD with no fogs coming on as shown here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YK-bnDBhnc

I have yet to try it with the fogs on to ensure it works, not sure exactly what is meant by "BFD with inner tail lights/rear fogs", i.e. does that mean using them or activating with them on.

PIN49_37_BFD nicht_aktiv BRAKE FORCE DISPLAY WITH INNER TAIL LIGHTS / LEFT REAR FOG LIGHT (DEPENDS ON CHASSIS)
PIN38_20_BFD nicht_aktiv BRAKE FORCE DISPLAY WITH OUTER TAIL LIGHTS (DEPENDS ON CHASSIS)
BFD_BLINK_EINZEIT wert_02 BRAKE FORCE DISPLAY FLASH OFF PERIOD
BFD_BLINK_AUSZEIT wert_02 BRAKE FORCE DISPLAY FLASH ON PERIOD
BFD_ABS_STUFE3 aktiv BRAKE FORCE DISPLAY STAGE 3 ACTIVATED BY ANTILOCK BRAKING SYSTEM (ABS)
BFD_STUFE3_TIMER wert_02 BRAKE FORCE DISPLAY STAGE 3 TIMER
BFD_SW2_STUFE3 nicht_aktiv BRAKE FORCE DISPLAY STAGE 3 ACTIVATED BY DECELERATION SENSOR 2
PIN5_10_BFD aktiv BRAKE FORCE DISPLAY WITH BRAKE LIGHTS
BFD_SW1_STUFE3 aktiv BRAKE FORCE DISPLAY STAGE 3 ACTIVATED BY DECELERATION SENSOR 1
BFD_SW2_STUFE2 nicht_aktiv BRAKE FORCE DISPLAY STAGE 2 ACTIVATED BY DECELERATION SENSOR 2
BFD_MINDEST_GESCHW wert_01 BRAKE FORCE DISPLAY MINIMUM SPEED
BFD_STUFE_2_VERZOEG wert_01 BRAKE FORCE DISPLAY STAGE 2 DELAY
BFD_STUFE_2_MAX_EIN wert_01 BRAKE FORCE DISPLAY STAGE 2 OFF?
BFD_SW1_STUFE2 nicht_aktiv BRAKE FORCE DISPLAY STAGE 2 ACTIVATED BY DECELERATION SENSOR 1
BFD_ABS_STUFE2 nicht_aktiv BRAKE FORCE DISPLAY STAGE 2 ACTIVATED BY ANTILOCK BRAKING SYSTEM (ABS)
BFD_STUFE2_TIMER wert_01 BRAKE FORCE DISPLAY STAGE 2 TIMER
PIN29_30_BFD nicht_aktiv BRAKE FORCE DISPLAY WITH INNER TAIL LIGHTS / REAR FOG LIGHTS (DEPENDS ON CHASSIS)
BFD3_ASC_TIMER wert_01
BEI_NSL_KEIN_BFD nicht_aktiv BRAKE FORCE DISPLAY NOT SIMULTANEOUSLY WITH REAR FOG LIGHTS
PIN38_BFD nicht_aktiv BRAKE FORCE DISPLAY WITH RIGHT OUTER TAIL LIGHT (DEPENDS ON CHASSIS)
PIN49_BFD nicht_aktiv BRAKE FORCE DISPLAY WITH LEFT INNER TAIL LIGHT / LEFT REAR FOG LIGHT (DEPENDS ON CHASSIS)
 
Scooba_Steve said:
Ducklakeview said:

My current LCZ trace filtered on BFD options, sorry for the formatting. This gives flashing third brake light on BFD with no fogs coming on as shown here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YK-bnDBhnc

I have yet to try it with the fogs on to ensure it works, not sure exactly what is meant by "BFD with inner tail lights/rear fogs", i.e. does that mean using them or activating with them on.

PIN49_37_BFD nicht_aktiv BRAKE FORCE DISPLAY WITH INNER TAIL LIGHTS / LEFT REAR FOG LIGHT (DEPENDS ON CHASSIS)
PIN38_20_BFD nicht_aktiv BRAKE FORCE DISPLAY WITH OUTER TAIL LIGHTS (DEPENDS ON CHASSIS)
BFD_BLINK_EINZEIT wert_02 BRAKE FORCE DISPLAY FLASH OFF PERIOD
BFD_BLINK_AUSZEIT wert_02 BRAKE FORCE DISPLAY FLASH ON PERIOD
BFD_ABS_STUFE3 aktiv BRAKE FORCE DISPLAY STAGE 3 ACTIVATED BY ANTILOCK BRAKING SYSTEM (ABS)
BFD_STUFE3_TIMER wert_02 BRAKE FORCE DISPLAY STAGE 3 TIMER
BFD_SW2_STUFE3 nicht_aktiv BRAKE FORCE DISPLAY STAGE 3 ACTIVATED BY DECELERATION SENSOR 2
PIN5_10_BFD aktiv BRAKE FORCE DISPLAY WITH BRAKE LIGHTS
BFD_SW1_STUFE3 aktiv BRAKE FORCE DISPLAY STAGE 3 ACTIVATED BY DECELERATION SENSOR 1
BFD_SW2_STUFE2 nicht_aktiv BRAKE FORCE DISPLAY STAGE 2 ACTIVATED BY DECELERATION SENSOR 2
BFD_MINDEST_GESCHW wert_01 BRAKE FORCE DISPLAY MINIMUM SPEED
BFD_STUFE_2_VERZOEG wert_01 BRAKE FORCE DISPLAY STAGE 2 DELAY
BFD_STUFE_2_MAX_EIN wert_01 BRAKE FORCE DISPLAY STAGE 2 OFF?
BFD_SW1_STUFE2 nicht_aktiv BRAKE FORCE DISPLAY STAGE 2 ACTIVATED BY DECELERATION SENSOR 1
BFD_ABS_STUFE2 nicht_aktiv BRAKE FORCE DISPLAY STAGE 2 ACTIVATED BY ANTILOCK BRAKING SYSTEM (ABS)
BFD_STUFE2_TIMER wert_01 BRAKE FORCE DISPLAY STAGE 2 TIMER
PIN29_30_BFD nicht_aktiv BRAKE FORCE DISPLAY WITH INNER TAIL LIGHTS / REAR FOG LIGHTS (DEPENDS ON CHASSIS)
BFD3_ASC_TIMER wert_01
BEI_NSL_KEIN_BFD nicht_aktiv BRAKE FORCE DISPLAY NOT SIMULTANEOUSLY WITH REAR FOG LIGHTS
PIN38_BFD nicht_aktiv BRAKE FORCE DISPLAY WITH RIGHT OUTER TAIL LIGHT (DEPENDS ON CHASSIS)
PIN49_BFD nicht_aktiv BRAKE FORCE DISPLAY WITH LEFT INNER TAIL LIGHT / LEFT REAR FOG LIGHT (DEPENDS ON CHASSIS)

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Cheers Steve.

Mike
 
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