brake pads

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RayM

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 Cheltenham
Hi Guys

Just after a little advice ref brake pads. The front ones on my recently acquired 3.0 are ok but will need replacing soon. I have found the parts on Euro spares and they range from £13 to £38 a pair depending on make. Any recommendations would be appreciated. Also how easy is it to replace the calliper casing/cover as mine are a bit rusty locking.

Cheers.
 
Run a search on the forum. You'll find dozens of recommendations. EBS are popular. I would not put £13 pads on a 155mph car...

Calipers don't have covers. Best you can do is clean up the casting and paint it. Red, black , silver, etc. with brake paint or some use Hammerite
 
I use Pagid from ECP as they are inexpensive but fine for the road.

I think you're referring to the caliper retaining springs, if so then they are impossible if your technique is wrong but easy enough if it's right and rust is normal. What you need to understand is that there's a hook shape on the end hidden inside the caliper so you need to apply force in the right direction. Look it up on YouTube but essentially you have to compress it and lever outwards.
 
I upgraded to yellowstuff pads on the fronts of mine and its made a massive difference, would definitely recommend them!

Only downside is there's a lot more brake dust compared to standard pads but worth it for the lack of fade when giving it some
 
Also wet for Gulf Racing dot 5.1 brake fluid as its a higher boiling point and a relatively cheap mod, got it from opie oils was just over a tenner.

Was around £85 for the pads direct from EBC and the brake fluid and would say if you are changing the pads anyway may as well spend that little bit extra
 
Textar are an OEM supplier for BMW (part of TMD who also make Pagid and Mintex)
Jurid are part of Bendix and make after-market OE Quality brakes.
ATE (Part of Continental Tyres) again are after-market OE quality.

Euro regulations prevent any pad sold for road use performing by + or - 15% differently to the original specification. So as long as it's a genuine Euro-stamped make there is little chance that you will actually detect a difference in performance between road spec pads. On a standard set-up the condition of your discs and fluid will probably make more difference than the brand of pad.
 
Ewazix said:
Euro regulations prevent any pad sold for road use performing by + or - 15% differently to the original specification. So as long as it's a genuine Euro-stamped make there is little chance that you will actually detect a difference in performance between road spec pads. On a standard set-up the condition of your discs and fluid will probably make more difference than the brand of pad.
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Depends on what you mean by difference... RE my yellowstuff pads there was almost no noticeable difference in the actual stopping power of the car, the MASSIVE DIFFERENCE (I put that in caps because of how different it really is) was in the brake fade when driving hard for even a remotely prolonged period, used to get it, now I don't at all so in that respect its night and day difference for me. Obviously the fluid upgrade will also be a contributory factor. And just a side note the +/- 15% adds up to a total of 30% difference allowable between pads and I think that could be very noticable
 
85genius said:
Ewazix said:
Euro regulations prevent any pad sold for road use performing by + or - 15% differently to the original specification. So as long as it's a genuine Euro-stamped make there is little chance that you will actually detect a difference in performance between road spec pads. On a standard set-up the condition of your discs and fluid will probably make more difference than the brand of pad.
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Depends on what you mean by difference... RE my yellowstuff pads there was almost no noticeable difference in the actual stopping power of the car, the MASSIVE DIFFERENCE (I put that in caps because of how different it really is) was in the brake fade when driving hard for even a remotely prolonged period, used to get it, now I don't at all so in that respect its night and day difference for me. Obviously the fluid upgrade will also be a contributory factor. And just a side note the +/- 15% adds up to a total of 30% difference allowable between pads and I think that could be very noticable
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So the trade off is poor brakes when cold and relatively high disk degredation (or pads, but that I doubt). Good trade for some, but not really for OP who's looking for cheap road pads not a track focussed set up.
 
85genius said:
Ewazix said:
Euro regulations prevent any pad sold for road use performing by + or - 15% differently to the original specification. So as long as it's a genuine Euro-stamped make there is little chance that you will actually detect a difference in performance between road spec pads. On a standard set-up the condition of your discs and fluid will probably make more difference than the brand of pad.
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Depends on what you mean by difference... RE my yellowstuff pads there was almost no noticeable difference in the actual stopping power of the car, the MASSIVE DIFFERENCE (I put that in caps because of how different it really is) was in the brake fade when driving hard for even a remotely prolonged period, used to get it, now I don't at all so in that respect its night and day difference for me. Obviously the fluid upgrade will also be a contributory factor. And just a side note the +/- 15% adds up to a total of 30% difference allowable between pads and I think that could be very noticable
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I have have paraphrased a very complex set of regulations and test protocols for ease of understanding but the full 101 pages are available on the link. Basically replacement pads cannot deviate by more than 15% from OE (not 30%) in any of the performance criteria including brake fade. So whilst I've no doubt that any new pads feel better than the knackered set they replaced I wouldn't be able to discern a 15% difference from OE.
http://www.unece.org/fileadmin/DAM/trans/main/wp29/wp29regs/R090r3e_01.pdf
When looking at changing pads I ruled out yellow stuff due to all the on-line reports of pads coming unglued but a lot of people do rate them.
 
Can't say i've ever had brake fade on public roads and if you have I suggest you calm down and re-evaluate your life before you kill yourself and possibly others.

Brake fade on public roads :lol:
 
ben g said:
Can't say i've ever had brake fade on public roads and if you have I suggest you calm down and re-evaluate your life before you kill yourself and possibly others.

Brake fade on public roads :lol:
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My A reg fiesta did, my first car, over excited on the hill to longleat house....very bad experience but no idea what it was at the time :o

Agree though, modern day, never, cannot see how it is possible.

On my coupe I always wanted textar epads due to the lack of dust, never got around to it & not available on the M. I hate cleaning wheels even if the M ones are possibly the easiest design I've ever had
 
Textar E pads are meant to be very good. Seen a lot of 'car guys' recommending them.

EBC stuff doesn't seem to be as universally liked for some reason.

Personally, i'd be going with OEM quality pads. I have Pagid's I got from Eurocarparts in a blue box. They've been perfectly fine for 2 years now. Cheap enough also.

Cheap doesn't always mean rubbish. Just make sure they're a well known brand with good reviews.
 
i really want some low dust Textar E-pads but i have some Pagid pads with LOADS of life left, and as ive changed my calipers ive also got my old pads which are also Pagid which also have LOADS of life in them so ive potentially got about 4-5 years worth so i cant justify buying a 3rd set just for less dust :cry: :headbang:
 
I fitted the Textar e-pads, they still produce dust but it doesn't stick and washes of much easier, probably because they produce less burning iron particles that really stick. I'd recommend them but wouldn't ditch serviceable pads for them.
 
Ewazix said:
I fitted the Textar e-pads, they still produce dust but it doesn't stick and washes of much easier, probably because they produce less burning iron particles that really stick. I'd recommend them but wouldn't ditch serviceable pads for them.
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Where did you purchase them from? None of the obvious motor factor places don't seem to stock them.
 
ben g said:
Ewazix said:
I fitted the Textar e-pads, they still produce dust but it doesn't stick and washes of much easier, probably because they produce less burning iron particles that really stick. I'd recommend them but wouldn't ditch serviceable pads for them.
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Where did you purchase them from? None of the obvious motor factor places don't seem to stock them.
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Euro Car Parts, or try Car Parts 4 Less I think they are connected and best price seems to swing between the two
 
I recently replaced all discs and pads with Mintex items. Very reasonably priced and performance is fine for road use. Pads were £19 rear and £17 front. Genuine Mintex off reputable EBay seller.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-MINTEX-FRONT-BRAKE-PAD-SET-MDB1901-/311473806283?hash=item4885491bcb
 
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