Bought a car, found steering side was changed afterwards...

Hello everyone,

I need a piece of advice please. I recently bought a Z4 dating back to 2010 and found just recently that the steering side was changed from RHD, to LHD. Here is the long story, short:
a) I went to a BMW dealer before buying the car, paid (60 euros or so) to track down any anomalies, problems, etc. and they provided no feedback claiming the mileage was real (about 13k mi), the mechanics are good, engine looks good, no damage reports, previous history record showed the car was serviced at about 10k, just some paint issues (which I said I will solve myself by repainting later on). That encouraged me to get the car, so I did. (I did also check the VIN myself on sites online and it turns out the car was originally with RHD steering - but did so only recently after being worried about the discovery, not previously...)
b) I then went on and painted the parts of the car that needed painting, then the guys at the shop told me there was an unusual welding there in the dashboard... I looked closely, and after studying the components of the car on the Internet (and checking the VIN number of the car from the factory...) I realized that it was the area of the steering, which was welded back to change the car from RHD to LHD.
c) the hood was repainted (probably by the previous owner, or by someone before him) and it seemed as if it had been brand new from the beginning (as the paint started to peel off and the bare metal was left off there, so it had been a brand new hood; not sure if hood replacement is necessary when changing RHD to LHD... so that's why I'm specifying this). Of course, now the car looks good and drives very well. Since then, I had replaced the brake pads, coolant and brake fluid, just to be sure.
c) the rims were the original design, as they came out of the factory. That made me thought that maybe the car has had no severe accidents in the past, and that the only change was the one related to the conversion.
d) the car drives great, I do love it and I already drove it for about 1500 mi so far and had no issues (except a light bulb which I replaced), did a computer diagnosis and no problems were there either.

However, I do have some concerns regarding reliability and, why not, its past... now that I realized that this change was done (and was NOT informed about it originally by the BMW dealer, which could have easily been done if they just barely checked the VIN). I do realize such a change is actually quite a big deal, so maybe you can shed some light here please and some insights into how you see the following:
a) how safe is it really now to drive this car? now that the area where the steering was re-welded to accommodate the LHD, is there any possibility of increased damage in case of an accident?
b) is there any chance of the engine being switched off the car and replaced with another? If so, does that mean that the real mileage may have also been altered as a consequence? Shouldn't the BMW dealer be able to tell if the engine was changed, or if the mileage was altered?
c) the dashboards creaks when I push it (the aluminium parts mostly), but I did read this is somewhat of a common problem in the Z4s (and we have really bad roads here that "help" with these things).
d) what would you recommend me to do in this scenario? should I just get rid of the car, or continue to enjoy it for 1-2 more years, then resell it?
e) I tried checking the car by VIN in the UK (the country it was built for), but had no luck... and I don't know the plate numbers that the car used to have in the UK unfortunately.

Thank you in advance for any help you can give me here!
 
When I moved from belgium to Scotland I brought over my vw golf gtd , lhd. I drove it for a few years and then sold it to my work mate. He then changed it to a rhd and drove it for years after that with no problem at all. That was 20 years ago and he done it as a homer, I would not worry to much , sure it will be fine. Enjoy the car :D
 
Um, well I'm not in any way qualified to respond but I would hope that the price you paid reflects the fact that this car has been so altered.

If it does not and you maybe feel that you paid the same price as a "non-altered" car, then maybe you should be thinking of returning to the dealers and arguing the toss with them, regarding disclosure of the cars full history, especially since you paid a 60 euro premium (presumably to the dealer?) to check its' history.

Just my feelings on the subject.
 
Where did you buy the car - privately, from an independent garage or from a BMW main dealer?

If you are concerned about how the conversion to LHD was done (and whether the car is safe to drive), then it should be possible to get an engineer's report. However, the fact that the garage which did the pre-purchase inspection for you didn't spot that it had been converted suggests that it may have been done well. But safest to get somebody qualified to check.

If you contact BMW Cars GB with the VIN, they should be able to tell you which dealership it was first sold by, and if you contact them they may be able to give you some further information about the car (some dealers are much more helpful than others for enquiries like this, in my experience!)

My biggest concerns would be that that conversion had been carried out badly or that it was done because there was other accident damage being repaired at the time. Hence a qualified engineer's report should give you peace of mind (or the ammunition to go back to whoever sold you the car).
 
Thanks all for the reply!

I bought the car privately (from another, non-related car dealer that had it), but before purchasing I paid the BMW dealer the fee to inspect the car - they have this custom inspection for sale-resale that should in theory warn you about any problems spotted. There was no mentioning of anything related to RHD/LHD in the report.

The car is scheduled for maintenance in the month of June (benefits of free servicing through BMW's program), that is when I will take it to the local BMW dealer here (the dealer I inspected the car at originally was located in another city) and ask to verify its structural integrity - that is what I am concerned mostly about. Because if I will find proof that the car is unsafe to drive, I will definitely not keep it... but if the only change done was that RHD/LHD conversion, I may be able to live with it for a couple of years.

I also checked today the driver's airbag button in the windshield, it just popped out of there... probably because of the conversion, the button had to go? Not sure there either.

Some questions pop in my mind though:
1. Is there any safe way to check that the front airbags are still there, and that they will deploy in case of a potential crash?
2. Same question for side airbags.

I got the car for about 18k pounds... probably too much, I know (a similar car sells for about 23.5k pounds here), but I'm willing to live with the fact that I overpaid, as long as I can get some peace of mind, if at all possible.
 
Wouldn't a conversion from RHD to LHD also require the replacement of a huge amount of interior components and wiring? The dash is asymmetrical and would require complete replacement. The door-cards and wiring would need to be swapped to get the window switches and mirror adjustment on the correct side. The center console is also asymmetrical and would need to be swapped out.

All in all a HUGE amount of work to do, and for what purpose? Given that LHD versions of the Z are readily available, in fact even more prevalent than the RHD version, this would seem like a hugely uneconomical and almost futile exercise. If it were a UK owner who moved abroad, it would make more sense to sell the RHD one in the UK and re-buy a LHD one on the continent.

Which only leads me to suspect foul play, that this has been stolen from the UK and had it's interior swapped out with a donor car's and the steering moved to very well hide it's true origin, along with what sounds like a bit of a questionable re-spray. Or perhaps it was an insurance write-off that's been classified as scrapped and shipped out the UK and sold on to avoid paperwork and make someone a sneaky profit. Either way, you have to question the motives.

If you are certain it was made for the UK market, you could try asking BMW to trace who the customer it was built for was, they might be reluctant to give you personal details but they should at least be able to give you the dealership that it was shipped to. From there, you might be able to get some more information, like the first registration number, which would be enough to do a background check on the history of the car in the UK.
 
supersebbo said:
Wouldn't a conversion from RHD to LHD also require the replacement of a huge amount of interior components and wiring? The dash is asymmetrical and would require complete replacement. The door-cards and wiring would need to be swapped to get the window switches and mirror adjustment on the correct side. The center console is also asymmetrical and would need to be swapped out.

All in all a HUGE amount of work to do, and for what purpose? Given that LHD versions of the Z are readily available, in fact even more prevalent than the RHD version, this would seem like a hugely uneconomical and almost futile exercise. If it were a UK owner who moved abroad, it would make more sense to sell the RHD one in the UK and re-buy a LHD one on the continent.

Which only leads me to suspect foul play, that this has been stolen from the UK and had it's interior swapped out with a donor car's and the steering moved to very well hide it's true origin, along with what sounds like a bit of a questionable re-spray. Or perhaps it was an insurance write-off that's been classified as scrapped and shipped out the UK and sold on to avoid paperwork and make someone a sneaky profit. Either way, you have to question the motives.

If you are certain it was made for the UK market, you could try asking BMW to trace who the customer it was built for was, they might be reluctant to give you personal details but they should at least be able to give you the dealership that it was shipped to. From there, you might be able to get some more information, like the first registration number, which would be enough to do a background check on the history of the car in the UK.

+1 with those thoughts but I didn't have the heart to say :(

the car just has to be stolen or mixed parts with a write-off.
 
supersebbo said:
Wouldn't a conversion from RHD to LHD also require the replacement of a huge amount of interior components and wiring? The dash is asymmetrical and would require complete replacement. The door-cards and wiring would need to be swapped to get the window switches and mirror adjustment on the correct side. The center console is also asymmetrical and would need to be swapped out.

All in all a HUGE amount of work to do, and for what purpose? Given that LHD versions of the Z are readily available, in fact even more prevalent than the RHD version, this would seem like a hugely uneconomical and almost futile exercise. If it were a UK owner who moved abroad, it would make more sense to sell the RHD one in the UK and re-buy a LHD one on the continent.

Which only leads me to suspect foul play, that this has been stolen from the UK and had it's interior swapped out with a donor car's and the steering moved to very well hide it's true origin, along with what sounds like a bit of a questionable re-spray. Or perhaps it was an insurance write-off that's been classified as scrapped and shipped out the UK and sold on to avoid paperwork and make someone a sneaky profit. Either way, you have to question the motives.

If you are certain it was made for the UK market, you could try asking BMW to trace who the customer it was built for was, they might be reluctant to give you personal details but they should at least be able to give you the dealership that it was shipped to. From there, you might be able to get some more information, like the first registration number, which would be enough to do a background check on the history of the car in the UK.

+2 Exactly my thoughts when reading this post :(

Hopefully this isnt the case though, im be getting on to the Seller you bought it from and start asking some questions. What does it say on the v5 out of interest?
 
Hi guys,

Thanks again for the replies! I'm back with news. Car works great (except the squeaks and rattles of course :-)), drove it for a few good thousand miles ever since I last spoke and I am happy with the purchase all-in-all. I of course went to the dealer for the regular once-in-2-years maintenance, as scheduled, and they found no major issues after inspection. I also did an on-board diagnostics test using an OBD tester (hope I used the proper terminology) and no errors came up. Plus, it is a beautiful car and I don't intend to sell it for 1 or 2 more years :-)

@Ewazix, hopz121: I agree, those were my thoughts as well. However, if the car had been stolen, the previous owner from which I bought it would not have been able to register it that easily based on the VIN. I'd say it was probably an insurance write-off classified as scrapped, or maybe purchased from an individual from the UK after a crash or something - but I am happy nonetheless with my car so far, since everyone agrees it's in very good shape so far.

@hopz121: Seems the v5 is the car's certificate. In my certificate, the steering wheel is entered as being on the left-side by the officials . So I guess all's good.
 
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