Bonkers prices in Holland
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Maybe if you undercut his prices you can get most of his projected customers indeed 
But keep in mind the dutch BPM tax structure.
That car has about €1600-1800 on bpm tax paid for it (import duties), depending on when he put that thing on numberplates (if he's smart he waits for it until the car is sold, but it would take a few days for the customer to collect).
So the UK value of that car is £14500.
I dont know what that car costs in the UK but £14500 minus that amount is your profit. For that you have to drive it from the uk to NL (gas, eurotunnel etc), so that might be another £400 or so in expenses?
But keep in mind the dutch BPM tax structure.
That car has about €1600-1800 on bpm tax paid for it (import duties), depending on when he put that thing on numberplates (if he's smart he waits for it until the car is sold, but it would take a few days for the customer to collect).
So the UK value of that car is £14500.
I dont know what that car costs in the UK but £14500 minus that amount is your profit. For that you have to drive it from the uk to NL (gas, eurotunnel etc), so that might be another £400 or so in expenses?
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I know that RHDs are exported from NL, also to Russia where has lower import tax on RHDs , South America for TVRs is another. Direct export to down under is another possibility but plenty of competition on that one. Holland I"ve tried before, I think splitting RHDs over there or advertising parts in Holland where no BPM but still VAT if trade
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Chris_D said:
Wow, that Mark T Plaats fella is having a laugh isn't he?
Seriously though, isn't the issue the taxes? I know tax on a new car in Denmark used to nearly double it's price, so used ones tend to reflect the much higher starting price!
And we used to think we got a bad deal on new cars in the UK! :roll:
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Chris_D said:
I just put a z4 "03 into the BPM calculator. I"ll post the result when it comes in. It will only be an indicator because the system is based on imports from Germany, UK model will be a bit less if anything at all
Chris_D said:
No after 10 years the bpm is still about 7,5%
BPM is gone after 17,5 years.
And bpm is paid over the car and all its factory installed options (satnav etc). At least for the 2006 and earlier car settlement.
For newer cars the bpm is much less attractive as it is set by emissions and has a slower annual reduction.
There are btw more ways to reduce bpm. One is the annual reduction table (see below), but bpm can also be paid over the commercial value of the car. A lot of cars with damage are imported that way. But for a sportscar the reduction table is usually better. For a daily driver car from the same age it can be different (the differnce between the value of a z4m or a nicely specced bmw 535d is huge on the 2nd hand market (z4m much more expensive) but when they were new, the price might have been the same)
complete table:
maanden cumulatief in % afschrijving in % rest-BPM in %
< 1 8,000 8,000 92,000
1 11,000 3,000 89,000
2 14,000 3,000 86,000
3 16,500 2,500 83,500
4 19,000 2,500 81,000
5 21,250 2,250 78,750
6 23,500 2,250 76,500
7 25,750 2,250 74,250
8 28,000 2,250 72,000
9 29,444 1,444 70,556
10 30,888 1,444 69,112
11 32,332 1,444 67,668
1 jaar 33,766 1,444 66,214
13 35,220 1,444 64,780
14 36,664 1,444 63,336
15 38,108 1,444 61,892
16 39,552 1,444 60,448
17 40,996 1,444 59,004
18 41,913 0,917 58,087
19 42,830 0,917 57,170
20 43,747 0,917 56,253
21 44,664 0,917 55,336
22 45,581 0,917 54,419
23 46,498 0,917 53,502
2 jaar 47,415 0,917 52,285
25 48,332 0,917 51,668
26 49,249 0,917 50,751
27 50,166 0,917 49,834
28 51,083 0,917 48,917
29 52,000 0,917 48,000
30 52,833 0,833 47,167
31 53,666 0,833 46,334
32 54,499 0,833 45,501
33 55,332 0,833 44,668
34 56,165 0,833 43,835
35 56,998 0,833 43,002
3 jaar 57,381 0,833 42,169
37 58,664 0,833 41,336
38 59,497 0,833 40,503
39 60,330 0,833 39,670
40 61,163 0,833 38,837
41 61,996 0,833 38,004
42 62,746 0,750 37,254
43 63,496 0,750 36,504
44 64,246 0,750 35,754
45 64,996 0,750 35,004
46 65,746 0,750 34,254
47 66,496 0,750 33,504
4 jaar 67,246 0,750 32,754
49 67,966 0,750 32,004
50 68,746 0,750 31,254
51 69,496 0,750 30,504
52 70,246 0,750 29,754
53 70,996 0,750 29,004
54 71,412 0,416 28,588
55 71,828 0,416 28,172
56 72,244 0,416 27,756
57 72,660 0,416 27,340
58 73,076 0,416 26,924
59 73,492 0,416 26,508
5 jaar 73,908 0,416 26,092
6 jaar 78,900 0,416 21,100
7 jaar 83,311 0,333 16,689
8 jaar 87,307 0,333 12,693
9 jaar 90,722 0,250 9,278
10 jaar 92,553 0,083 7,447
11 jaar 93,549 0,083 6,451
12 jaar 94,545 0,083 5,455
13 jaar 95,541 0,083 4,459
14 jaar 96,537 0,083 3,463
15 jaar 97,533 0,083 2,467
16 jaar 98,529 0,083 1,471
17 jaar 99,525 0,083 0,475
17,5 jaar 100,000 0,083 0,000
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Mr Tidy said:Chris_D said:
Wow, that Mark T Plaats fella is having a laugh isn't he?
Seriously though, isn't the issue the taxes? I know tax on a new car in Denmark used to nearly double it's price, so used ones tend to reflect the much higher starting price!
And we used to think we got a bad deal on new cars in the UK! :roll:
Danish car tax or registration tax as is, is at 182% of the base value ex factory and the higher the base value the tax % goes up as well
now that IS bonkers! :|sticky said:Mr Tidy said:Chris_D said:
Wow, that Mark T Plaats fella is having a laugh isn't he?
Seriously though, isn't the issue the taxes? I know tax on a new car in Denmark used to nearly double it's price, so used ones tend to reflect the much higher starting price!
And we used to think we got a bad deal on new cars in the UK! :roll:
Danish car tax or registration tax as is, is at 182% of the base value ex factory and the higher the base value the tax % goes up as well
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Chris_D said:now that IS bonkers! :|sticky said:Mr Tidy said:Wow, that Mark T Plaats fella is having a laugh isn't he?
Seriously though, isn't the issue the taxes? I know tax on a new car in Denmark used to nearly double it's price, so used ones tend to reflect the much higher starting price!
And we used to think we got a bad deal on new cars in the UK! :roll:
Danish car tax or registration tax as is, is at 182% of the base value ex factory and the higher the base value the tax % goes up as well
I used to live there, car prices are one thing try reading up on income tax !!!!! :x :x :x
Yes, but that excludes options and is for 1st of january 2003 (no models yet).Chris_D said:
Say if I take my car (almost all options, list price about €70k, and is from april 2004) you get:
BPM berekening 2004
catalogusprijs (netto) € 43.569
BTW (19,0%) € 8.278
BPM (45,2%) € 19.693
BPM brandstoftoeslag € -1.540
BPM toeslag energielabel € 0
BPM toeslag CO2-uitstoot € 0
catalogusprijs (bruto) € 70.000
BPM totaal (inclusief leeftijdskorting 95.071%) € 895
sticky said:
Ouch!
I only went there a few times on business.
Lovely country, but I was a bit surprised when I ordered a glass of vino in the hotel and it got charged at over £10 - still, that is what expenses are for surely?
Certainly won't ever be going back at my own expense - it wasn't THAT good!
Netherlands doesn't look too appealing now either. :roll:
Chris_D said:
No, I ment that you can also choose to pay bpm on the commercial value. And a DD type car will devaluate much more quickly.
So that might be an option if you import something other than a z4, like a large french sedan or so (devaluates like crazy), or something like a bmw 7 (also very hard on depreciation). But if you choose to go that route, it has to be an expert opinion on pricing.
ok so there could be an option to reduce it depending on your own intended use.GuidoK said:
btw where did u get those figures from?
I'll be going through the import procedure for my own zed in February and was under the assumption i would be paying nothing or next to nothing re. import tax. now i'm curious.....
its an 03 3.0i bought for GBP4000.