When I look at Guiseley's new car, it is definitely an option for the future. I'd have to check out the maintenance costs and Porsche garage rates.
BMW Z4 vs Audi TT
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Nothing wrong with the Cayman S but its not what you would call quick but it is a polished machine but a very acquired taste.StevenH72 said:corsaire77 said:[youtube]s6IHHXxs_Fk[/youtube]
It was a no-brainer indeed, especially for the enthusiast driver.
Anyway, I have to admit that in two or three years, with the //M no longer in production and the E89 not quite my kind of car, I'll be on the market for a used TT RS. I'll suffer the horrible looks and the understeer - or at least I keep telling myself so.
Surely a used Cayman S would be a better choice that a TT RS?
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Yeah I was meaning the E89 and Mk11 TT. Cheers
I had my heart set on a TTS before the perfect z4c came up for sale (and basically landed on my lap as its was a good mate of mine selling). Loved the TTS ability to be used as a daily driver. The cabin, the ride, the grip from the quattro system in the wet and snow. But the excitement every time i get in my z4c couldn't ever be matched, it feels like much more of an occasion. no regrets as i use mine as a daily driver and i have had no problems even in the recent weather.
My wife has a 2010 TT hardtop, I've got the E89. They are totally different cars.
The TT has a surprising amount of boot space especially with the (ridiculous) back seats down, and has a quieter smoother ride. The Diesel engine on ours is a great responsive unit and good economy. On the other hand, the zed has the retractable hard top, low slung sports car drive and looks (with the Msport option anyway).
The TT has a surprising amount of boot space especially with the (ridiculous) back seats down, and has a quieter smoother ride. The Diesel engine on ours is a great responsive unit and good economy. On the other hand, the zed has the retractable hard top, low slung sports car drive and looks (with the Msport option anyway).
These comparisons come up time and time again, and you can guarantee that 'how nice the Audi interior is' will crop up about 5 times more than 'what a blast it is to drive' does. Says it all.
Yes I agree I probably got a little carried away! It's just in the group tests that I've read they do often mention a little more power wouldn't go amiss, but the cayman s is more about a handling benchmark than out & out speed similar to the boxster in that regard I think.StevenH72 said:
LeeZ4MR said:
Yeh I think you are probably right. I'd love a Cayman S, but for the price of a decent ///M you're still at the low end of the cayman market and they are pretty common so depreciation will be much worse than the ///M.
Every road test/ review I've read/ seen comes out the Porsche on top.
I'm an ex-TT owner (Mk1 S-line 225). Enjoyed it at the time but between that & another Audi I experienced TERRIBLE customer service courtesy of Audi dealers which saw me changing to BMW & having two 5 series in a row. (E39 535i & a E60 530i) Have been looking to go back to something more sporty for a while & am waiting to pick up my Z4 in next week or 2!
Haven't tested the current TT but am obviously happy with the Z4 as a drive & I think the Z looks a lot more special actually. Think in the Mk2 TT Audi watered down the originals design a bit, so its not as stand out different to the rest of the Audi range as the MK1 was IMHO.
Haven't tested the current TT but am obviously happy with the Z4 as a drive & I think the Z looks a lot more special actually. Think in the Mk2 TT Audi watered down the originals design a bit, so its not as stand out different to the rest of the Audi range as the MK1 was IMHO.
I had a mark I 225 TT coupe for a few years. When I got it they were still fairly rare and throughout my ownership the appearance remained interesting and fresh. The interior was far better quality than my Z4 and it went like stink in a straight line (especially with the turbo cranked up a bit)... But, the handling was just awful - much more prone to understeer than the 306XSi I had before it - and the brakes were really not up to the task. However, my greatest complaint was that it was the most expensive yet the most unreliable car I'd ever owned. In the time I had it the warranty company paid out more for repairs than I paid to buy it.
I'm sure things must have improved with the second generation but I wouldn't go near one again.
I'm sure things must have improved with the second generation but I wouldn't go near one again.
From 2004 on reliability of the Mk1s improved after Audi had used Joe Public as their quality control department! The first Mk1 I had experienced a lot of problems - thank goodness for warranty. The second Mk1 was much better but still had some niggly faults develop. The Mk2 never put a foot wrong!BMWZ4MC said:
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if you can afford go for the 28i quite different to the 20i imho
245bhp same mpg as 20i and tax also only comes in msport so has an few extras
245bhp same mpg as 20i and tax also only comes in msport so has an few extras
StevenH72 said:
The newest CaymanS & GTS are quiker than any Z4, in a staight line or around a corner.
However look at a CaymanS of comparable age, let alone price, to an E86M and there is no contest, on staight line or lap time. E86M wins hands down. It's actualy more comparable with an early R8 V8, that a TT of the same period.
As for the New TT & E89, I now nout about either chuck.
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Last year I had a black / silver leather Mk2 2007 Audi TT 3.2 Quattro DSG Coupe.
I only had the car for a few months as I just couldn't get on with it.
The engine made a nice sound and propelled the car along quite well. I did not like the DSG gearbox as although it was brilliant when using paddles and going some, it would do some strange things from time to time and was quite jerky in traffic and when setting off.
The interior quality was very good, miles better than some of the awful USA plastics in the Zed.
Like most Audi's I have driven, I just found it quite dull to drive with pretty lifeless steering. I didn't like the TT image which was more pretty boy than serious petrol head. This was confirmed when I was trying to sell it as so many blokes came and then looked at it from every angle imagining what they would look like to others when they were sitting driving it.
The Bose hifi system was absolute rubbish, possibly the worst car hi-fi I have ever heard - no highs, no lows, must be Bose.
The Zed is a serious drivers car and therefore has far more soul IMO. The TT is a nice looking car but is, as we know, a Golf in drag.
I only had the car for a few months as I just couldn't get on with it.
The engine made a nice sound and propelled the car along quite well. I did not like the DSG gearbox as although it was brilliant when using paddles and going some, it would do some strange things from time to time and was quite jerky in traffic and when setting off.
The interior quality was very good, miles better than some of the awful USA plastics in the Zed.
Like most Audi's I have driven, I just found it quite dull to drive with pretty lifeless steering. I didn't like the TT image which was more pretty boy than serious petrol head. This was confirmed when I was trying to sell it as so many blokes came and then looked at it from every angle imagining what they would look like to others when they were sitting driving it.
The Bose hifi system was absolute rubbish, possibly the worst car hi-fi I have ever heard - no highs, no lows, must be Bose.
The Zed is a serious drivers car and therefore has far more soul IMO. The TT is a nice looking car but is, as we know, a Golf in drag.
The Mk1 was a golf in drag I agree but the Mk2 has a totally different platform but it does still have lifeless steering and dynamically you don't get much back either, our TTS has done nearly 60k miles in two years from new and the S-Tronic gearbox has been faultless and has always behaved itself its just so laggy the engine though almost like old school Turbo`s!sniffer said:
The mrs loves the car and they are a girls motor for sure and I wouldn't have one myself but we have been looking to change and considered the Audi S5 and 435d xdrive but we keep coming back to the TT so I can see us ending up in a Mk3 TTS when they launch if the numbers add up.
I love the E89 and I love the shape and interior but I don't think its a serious drivers car either its more cruiser which isn't a bad thing and I prefer it to the TT because of its RWD set up which is my personal preference.
Never driven a TT, but I have considered one on occasion. They do look good, and I've no doubt that as a car to use on a daily basis, they are probably a lot easier to live with.
Trouble is the image. I think the Z4 commands respectful admiration, but the TT really does scream "poser".
Trouble is the image. I think the Z4 commands respectful admiration, but the TT really does scream "poser".