BMW Performance 6-Pot Brake Kit

outrun, never had any issues with the valves melting. I have had paint chip off the wheel, below where the valve cap is, due to running metal valve caps though! Back to the plastic ones now! But can't say I've ever experienced any melted covers!

Aliv6, I did, but it was earlier on when I was still building speed up on the track. I don't think I had too many issues, as the 'Ring is quite flowing and there aren't too many long, hard braking zones. But I also wasn't lapping as fast as I am these days, so hard to say. If you do have brake issues, you'll be able to pick up a set of Pagid or Carbopad pads from plenty of places over there (Ring Racing, RSR etc) to get yourself going. :thumbsup:
 
Sound....Ring is pretty hard on brakes lol... Mine were smoking after a lap. But held up... AP 4 pots with uprated lines, fluid and pads. (clio v6)

Do you run a front numberplate at all? I'm having the number plate recess smoothed soon. considering a sticky front plate.
 
Aliv6 said:
Sound....Ring is pretty hard on brakes lol... Mine were smoking after a lap. But held up... AP 4 pots with uprated lines, fluid and pads. (clio v6)

Do you run a front numberplate at all? I'm having the number plate recess smoothed soon. considering a sticky front plate.
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Contrary to what a lot of people say, the Ring is not hard on the brakes. There are only three places where you have the mothers of all slow downs - into Aremberg, into Breidscheid and into Schwalbenschwantz. Don't take it the wrong way - if your Clio's brakes were smoking after a lap, I suggest you invest some money and time with RSR Nurburg, hire one of their Alfa's and Dale, Ed or Bren in the passenger seat as an instructor. I guarantee you, that your brakes will last many laps, whilst your knowledge of the track and its peculiarities increases ten fold.

Alex

P.S. My OEM brake pads lasted about 20 laps, before I switched to Carbopads. Still have the OEM pads as get me home jobbies somewhere in the garage...
 
Sixspeed, did you look into Mov'it or similar? Femme fitted a nice bbk on his Alpina Roadster S and does not complain about it, although I don't know how much track use he really does with his car.

http://www.z4-forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=643
 
I had problems the first time i went to the Ring with my 993 turbo's brakes. I've been a few times now and i think you do learn to relax a bit more and brake differently. Last time i went was on standard brakes and although we only did 4 laps, they were totally fine. Got some Red Stuff pads now which should improve things a little although they are not really track pads. We'll see when i go towards the end of the summer........
 
I think your first time at the 'Ring is similar to the first time at any track.

You do a couple of laps to see where the circuit goes and then build up speed. Unfortunately you'll still be flooring it on the straighter bits and then panicking at the corners and slamming on the brakes.

As you get more confident in the car on those corners you will be braking less and less, carrying more speed through and thus using the brakes less (in most situations).

However as the 'Ring is so long, it take a lot longer to learn where you can just feather the throttle and drive through the corner rather than braking from 140mph down to 60mph just to floor it when you see it's an easier corner than you thought.

BTW I think Donington GP circuit is the worst for brakes as you have 3 very heavy braking areas consecutively within about 500m.
 
wooter,

I have contacted Mov'It in the past, as was tempted by the ceramic option a year or so ago. Not looking to go that far now. Incidentally, the 4-pot Mov'It system is a copy of an OEM braking setup which I am now considering.
 
Cheburator said:
Aliv6 said:
Sound....Ring is pretty hard on brakes lol... Mine were smoking after a lap. But held up... AP 4 pots with uprated lines, fluid and pads. (clio v6)

Do you run a front numberplate at all? I'm having the number plate recess smoothed soon. considering a sticky front plate.
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Contrary to what a lot of people say, the Ring is not hard on the brakes. There are only three places where you have the mothers of all slow downs - into Aremberg, into Breidscheid and into Schwalbenschwantz. Don't take it the wrong way - if your Clio's brakes were smoking after a lap, I suggest you invest some money and time with RSR Nurburg, hire one of their Alfa's and Dale, Ed or Bren in the passenger seat as an instructor. I guarantee you, that your brakes will last many laps, whilst your knowledge of the track and its peculiarities increases ten fold.

Alex

P.S. My OEM brake pads lasted about 20 laps, before I switched to Carbopads. Still have the OEM pads as get me home jobbies somewhere in the garage...
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LOL. ok. Fair enough Alex, But most go for the experience not to edge a few tenths off their time.

I've been racing since i was 7 so, i've got a good enough understanding of the limits of a car. (Not that your having a go) i also think your advice is spot on. But on the topic of brakes, the ring is pretty hard on brakes (regardless), and they would probably not last 2 laps without massive fade. Bear in mind i'm not runnin PF or Dot 5 fluid, also no coolin to them either.

Anyway... :D
 
sixspeed said:
wooter,

I have contacted Mov'It in the past, as was tempted by the ceramic option a year or so ago. Not looking to go that far now. Incidentally, the 4-pot Mov'It system is a copy of an OEM braking setup which I am now considering.
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What OEM braking setup is that?

@wooter
I'm considering a 4-pot Movit system when my discs are ready voor replacement ;), though a little bit pricy :(.
 
The new Thorney CSL Cup brake kit would surely be a perfect match, they look superb too.. http://www.thorneymotorsport.co.uk/products/product_info.php?products_id=4596

Might have to wait for the next bonus though!
 
Are they really worth that much!!!

Even their Supersprint exhaust system is nearly £4k :o
 
LOL @ the Thorney speil...

According to John, APs have been the "only" choice for so long, but now all of a sudden they're no good, and only last a couple of laps because there are some new shiny brakes that he's peddling. I've no doubt those Alcon's are good though, as they are a better design, but it makes me laugh how suddenly the marketing write up paints the APs as almost useless (the way it reads anyway!)
 
sixspeed said:
LOL @ the Thorney speil...

According to John, APs have been the "only" choice for so long, but now all of a sudden they're no good, and only last a couple of laps because there are some new shiny brakes that he's peddling. I've no doubt those Alcon's are good though, as they are a better design, but it makes me laugh how suddenly the marketing write up paints the APs as almost useless (the way it reads anyway!)
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That advertising blurb really made my day!!! All that bullshit from Thorney! I've just come back from the Ring where I spent quite some time with the guys from Gentle Swiss Racing - they run a Aston N24 in the VLN and make the Carbopads. We were setting up the geo on my 928 and got chatting about brakes - according to them, the factory Aston N24s run perfectly well on 4-pot Brembos similar to the one found in the 993Turbo, 993RS, 993 GT2, 928GTS and Ferrari F50 using a 355mm x 32mm front disk. For Thorney's info - the Aston N24 is not exactly light at 1300kg sans fuel and driver, thus I don't buy this extra weight of the CSL rubbish either

Alcon are good, but please Thorney, give us break. Why no mention of MovIT? Oh no, you can actually use the 6 Pot monoblock Brembo out of the GT3RS on the Z4MC with a little bit of engineering, and it is a lot cheaper.... Or you can go down the route of the Brembo 4-pot Big Reds used by probably at least 20 cars in the VLN...
 
Sorry to resurrect, such an old thread!!!

Seeing as Speed Religion are no longer in business, is there anyone else who makes the brackets so the performance kit can be used?

Thanks

Noor
 
Dino made up a set of brackets & braided hoses, they have been a huge hit on m3cutters.

http://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/showthread.php?t=67110

I had a set on my E46 M3, going to get them fitted on my Z4MC when I get round to it.
 
So do the dust seals on these stand up to the heat ?

There were reports that the standard 135i versions tended to burn them up on track. Not tried myself mind.

Some details at the bottom:

http://www.racingbrake.com/BMW-135i-6-piston-Brembo-caliper-rebuild-p/bb-61bs.htm
 
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