BMW is not supportive of the Enthusiast Community
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PerryGunn said:
Well said that man !
I agree. I do like the OP's car, but (as has been pointed out by others) considering how many options were available when new, there are probably many many 'unique' Z4's out there. Perhaps having black wheel nuts instead of chrome makes your 911 more valuable, but not your Z4PerryGunn said:
I do know where the OP is coming from, my guess is that is partly that they can't release certain information but probably they are not geared up for it. When I started my 'running in oil' enquiry, it involved weeks of work for BMW, involving BMW Genius in the UK, M GmbH and BMW Classic in Germany. They were great, but it sounded like a lot of work and I suspect it helped that they knew I was Z4 representative from BMWCC.
Maybe a new department is needed within BMW to support the enthusiast, an archivist of sorts, but it would come at a cost. Is it worth trying to contact your club representative for your model to see if they can find out for you or maybe put you in touch with someone else?
Maybe a new department is needed within BMW to support the enthusiast, an archivist of sorts, but it would come at a cost. Is it worth trying to contact your club representative for your model to see if they can find out for you or maybe put you in touch with someone else?
BMW will have the information but why would they share it?
Imagine the value of such data when it comes to determining product strategy, car specifications, options, colours etc and how much competitors would value that information.
The best databases of this information for virtually any brand, outside of the manufacturer, is through the owner's club, forums of if one individual takes it upon themselves to try and collate the data by monitoring auctions, classifieds and such like.
Imagine the value of such data when it comes to determining product strategy, car specifications, options, colours etc and how much competitors would value that information.
The best databases of this information for virtually any brand, outside of the manufacturer, is through the owner's club, forums of if one individual takes it upon themselves to try and collate the data by monitoring auctions, classifieds and such like.
Precisely - and it's bloody difficult even for limited production vehiclesferry said:
Have a look at Alpina Archive and see the sort of information that can be gathered and shared by enthusiasts
Update: It looks like there is a huge distinction between BMW N.A. and BMW in Munich. Dealing with BMW North America was :headbang:
The lady said she knew exactly where I was coming from but it was there "policy" not to release this information. Clearly they don't realize that really dyed in the wool car people are can be obsessive and we like this sort of stuff. E.g., Man cave's with automobile memorabilia and knowing all sorts of esoteric stuff about car's history and production. (I guess they've never watched an episode of Petrolicious.)
So much for American style customer service! :thumbsdown:
ON THE OTHER HAND I did indeed get an email from BMW Munich this morning and they were the opposite of BMW NA. They actually gave me useful data! I asked for one more point of clarification and once that is (hopefully) provided I will post a full update.
So far....score one for BMW Munchen!
The lady said she knew exactly where I was coming from but it was there "policy" not to release this information. Clearly they don't realize that really dyed in the wool car people are can be obsessive and we like this sort of stuff. E.g., Man cave's with automobile memorabilia and knowing all sorts of esoteric stuff about car's history and production. (I guess they've never watched an episode of Petrolicious.)
So much for American style customer service! :thumbsdown:
ON THE OTHER HAND I did indeed get an email from BMW Munich this morning and they were the opposite of BMW NA. They actually gave me useful data! I asked for one more point of clarification and once that is (hopefully) provided I will post a full update.
So far....score one for BMW Munchen!
Valor1 said:Update: It looks like there is a huge distinction between BMW N.A. and BMW in Munich. Dealing with BMW North America was :headbang:
The lady said she knew exactly where I was coming from but it was there "policy" not to release this information. Clearly they don't realize that really dyed in the wool car people are can be obsessive and we like this sort of stuff. E.g., Man cave's with automobile memorabilia and knowing all sorts of esoteric stuff about car's history and production. (I guess they've never watched an episode of Petrolicious.)
So much for American style customer service! :thumbsdown:
ON THE OTHER HAND I did indeed get an email from BMW Munich this morning and they were the opposite of BMW NA. They actually gave me useful data! I asked for one more point of clarification and once that is (hopefully) provided I will post a full update.
So far....score one for BMW Munchen!
Glad to hear you're getting somewhere with your request.
Love to see a pic of the z8, can you post one?
Rob
Bing said:
This is where the thread should end, tbh.
OP seems to be desperately trying to find out that his car is only 1 of a handful so he can brag that its a special edition like the rest of his collection. Sorry to say, that as lovely as the E89 Zed is, its not a limited, collectors edition, no matter what spec you have or how many other people have the same spec. It's a mass-produced roadster. A good one, but not a special one.
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