Best vanos rebuild guide

RG500

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Looking to rebuild the vanos system over the holidays.
Question being has anyone found a spot on quide/instructions for this process?
Cheers
 
Hi, are you talking M54 engine?
If so then buy your kit from X8R and they send you a link to their guides:
https://x8r.co.uk/for-bmw-double-twin-dual-vanos-seals-repair-set-kit-m52-m54-m56-with-gaskets.html

Bottom right of the page there's a tab for the repair pdfs
 
I think 2 of the most complicated parts about the vanos job on the E85 z4 are missing in the guide:
- Getting the vanos off the engine, as there is not enough room between the engine and front subframe structure without doing additional work. I only got that to work by removing the engine mounts and lowering the engine about 1" onto the subframe, putting a piece of rubber mat inbetween to protect the sump. (about 15min work if you have it on a ramp or lift, but you do need some kind of jack to lift the engine up to take out the engine mounts (4 nuts)).
I've heard of people manhandling the engine pushing it up to the cabin bulkhead with prybars and such, but I decided not to use brute force on my car and saw lowering the engine by 1" as the only way for the vanos to clear the front subframe structure without putting excessive force on other components.
- getting the vanos piston caps out requires bent needlenose pliers instead of normal needlenose pliers. Again because of the subframe structure is in the way.

Assuming that you don't want to get the complete engine out first, as those guides seem to be written around that scenario :lol:
(makes for great pictures, but doesn't tell the complete story alas).
These issues are afaik Z4 only; the E46/E39 etc have different monocoques with less bracing, so that's why they probably are missing in the guides. The suppliers probably just don't know. :roll:
 
I suppose the most logical question is......... where are you?
If, for example, you were near me I'd come and help talk you through it.
Pretty sure if you were near Lincoln then bigwinn would say the same.
 
Thanks for the replies and apologies for the delay.
I work away and don't have access to a PC.
Home yesterday and made a start to things today.
All was going well until I tried to remove the unbolted vanos unit!
Surely someone in design is needing shot for this idea. 1 x 6mm tread preventing the vanos unit from being removed and its only by a couple of threads.
 
RG500 said:
Thanks for the replies and apologies for the delay.
I work away and don't have access to a PC.
Home yesterday and made a start to things today.
All was going well until I tried to remove the unbolted vanos unit!
Surely someone in design is needing shot for this idea. 1 x 6mm tread preventing the vanos unit from being removed and its only by a couple of threads.

Get a big lever bar on the front of the water pump and the cross member

Give it some- with a helper. That will give you 2-3mm of clearance to get the threads cleared and out
 
bigwinn said:
RG500 said:
Thanks for the replies and apologies for the delay.
I work away and don't have access to a PC.
Home yesterday and made a start to things today.
All was going well until I tried to remove the unbolted vanos unit!
Surely someone in design is needing shot for this idea. 1 x 6mm tread preventing the vanos unit from being removed and its only by a couple of threads.

Get a big lever bar on the front of the water pump and the cross member

Give it some- with a helper. That will give you 2-3mm of clearance to get the threads cleared and out
Not as experienced as bigwinn & others in this thread, but I managed to do mine reasonably easy without a helper, using a plank of wood which I could press with my elbow while negotiating the vanos out.

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The m6 stud that was preventing the removal of the vanos from the car - I used an old procedure of cutting a nut in half and the vanos is now sitting on the bench ready for stripping.
 
RG500 said:
The m6 stud that was preventing the removal of the vanos from the car - I used an old procedure of cutting a nut in half and the vanos is now sitting on the bench ready for stripping.

Well done

It’s worth the effort bud
 
Vanos rebuild complete.
Car sounds a lot better and smoother/more responsive.
Only one issue outstanding now - starting from cold it takes 20-30 seconds to come to itself.
Air mass meter can be heard closing and the car wants to stall.
Then 30-30 seconds later its perfect!!!!
 
RG500 said:
Vanos rebuild complete.
Car sounds a lot better and smoother/more responsive.
Only one issue outstanding now - starting from cold it takes 20-30 seconds to come to itself.
Air mass meter can be heard closing and the car wants to stall.
Then 30-30 seconds later its perfect!!!!
There are no moving parts in the MAF. Is it the idle control valve you can hear ? Have you got a code reader ? This would pinpoint exactly what the issue is :thumbsup:
 
Sorry - my mistake it is indeed the idle control valve.
Plugged in a code reader today but nothing appeared.
I'll give it a longer run tomorrow and see if anything shows.
Cheers
 
RG500 said:
Sorry - my mistake it is indeed the idle control valve.
Plugged in a code reader today but nothing appeared.
I'll give it a longer run tomorrow and see if anything shows.
Cheers
:thumbsup:
 
Plugged in the code reader and the following fault codes appeared:-
P0300, P0304, P0305 and P0306.
Plugs and coils are new.
Here's a video of the car starting and as mentioned, after 22 seconds it's all good.
The clanking noise is the idle control valve.
https://youtu.be/jRpFJazeXbU
 
General explanation and causes explained here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJvaKVMyhQY
That idle control valve sounds knackered try swapping that out for a replacement from one of our resident breakers see if that sorts it.
 
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