BBS split rim bolts

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speed12

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Evening All,

I am in the process of getting my spare set of 108's refurbed (going for mirror chrome outer "lip/ rim" gun metal grey innner stars, with the inner rim also gun metal grey). TO reduce the cost I decided to split the rims myself as it saved me £20 a wheel.

Bought a set of tools that had the right part, managed to split one wheel easily last night. However tonight I did the second wheel and the bolts seemed really tough. I have managed to crack them all loose except for one which has just rounded :headbang: very annoying!! I have bought a little set of bolt extractors so hopefully I can remove any more that might shear or round.

However I now have the problem of not knowing where to get some replacement bolts!? anyone got any ideas?? the cheaper the better really...

Kind regards
 
Several people have had this issue. I managed to find some replacements from a dealer who was prepared to split an old wheel. Worth a try....
 
I can take a bolt or two from my current set as a last resort, but will need to find some at somepoint for when i get them refurbed and sold. The refurber can get them, but he has said it wont be cheap. need to look into it, might get several more rounded bolts yet!
 
Just matz are uk BBS dealers, and there is one more. These guys are good and can order anything. Audi splits may use the same bolts, and you can normally pick up one wheel for about £40 off ebay. Post up a pic of one wheel and i will tell you, as cant remember what they look like on the 108's :)
 
I use an impact drill to get them out, much easier and far less chance of the heads coming off. I have never used grease or anything, but copper slip or similar may be of some use.
 
Would it be a good idea to spray each bolt with WD40 and let them soak for a day ?
 
nicko said:
would it be advisable to use some sort of anti-seize grease when re-assembling ?
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No no no - they must be locktited in when reassembled else you be courting disaster as the miles rack up. Take a look at the bolts you've removed and you'll see it already on the ends. Locktite Threadlocker blue 242 is the sort of product to use that resists accidental loosening but can be undone with handtools.

Don't use any kind of grease or copper slip as that also affects the torrque settings when you rebuild the rims.
 
Did the other two wheels yesterday and another 3-4 bolts rounded, this despite me trying to be as slow and gradual as possible.

Will see what the refubishers quote for some new bolts is, and compare with the UK suppliers, may just take some from my existing set for now, and worry about new bolts when I get the second set refurbished.

Kind regards
 
Just had a quick look on ebay there is a couple of sellers selling BBS split rim bolts but not sure if they are the same type as the ones for the 108's,but might be worth emailing them.
 
When I had BBS splits on the two-eight I used Felgen Garage to buy replacement bolts.

http://www.felgen-man.de/english/indexenglish.html
 
Well there has been some development.

In the end I had to get the refubisher to remove the rounded bolts, which cost me more but its not too bad.

However today he emailed me to say that he is no longer willing to re assemble the wheels for me as he does not trust the integrity of the bolts because I split the wheels and not him. I think that because I had some rounded bolts he must assume that I have gone in heavy handed and been rough with the bolts.

Little bit annoyed as this was never mentioned when we agreed the plan from the start.

So now I have to contemplate re-tapping all the holes myself, and re-assembling myself.

Anyone know where to get locktite cheap? also what torque setting should be used when reassembling these bolts? just hope none of them break when re-fitting...

New bolts are a no go as they are horribly expensive.
 
Loctite is on eBay or try Halfords or any motor factors. Bit strange of him not wanting to re assemble them!! As long as the bolts are out and you can assess the threads, not really sure why he would not do it. Oh unless because you are using existing bolts, then not many would really. Bite the bullet and get them ;.)
 
I think a set of 80 bolts costs £100 so may just bite the bullet, I can always sell my other bolts on ebay and maybe get £20 for them, as long as I am clear and state they have been used!

I dont think he wants to reassemble them because they are used bolts and he cannot trust the integrity of the bolts... I can kind of see why, but these bolts are not highly stressed and he should have said that from the start.. I am tempted to try and assemble myself, but after the nightmare I had undoing them I am fearfull that I may snap a few!
 
Well get a complete set for £100 ish, if you brake some you have spares, and sell them in 10's for £20 a set :thumbsup: Trust me it works :lol:
 
speed12 said:
I think a set of 80 bolts costs £100 so may just bite the bullet, I can always sell my other bolts on ebay and maybe get £20 for them, as long as I am clear and state they have been used!

I dont think he wants to reassemble them because they are used bolts and he cannot trust the integrity of the bolts... I can kind of see why, but these bolts are not highly stressed and he should have said that from the start.. I am tempted to try and assemble myself, but after the nightmare I had undoing them I am fearfull that I may snap a few!
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No way will you snap any. They are high quality bolts tightened to about 20lb/ft into an alloy wheel, so we not even talking about prestressing them.

Counting all the 108's I've broken down refurbed and built I'd reckong on having done 500+ bolts and never one gone wrong. I undo with an airgun and initial tighten up with an electric driver set to low torque then manually torque them in sequnece.
 
If buying new bolts (which I may do for spares, and to sell on at a later date).

These look like the right ones: http://www.justmatz.co.uk/proddetail.php?prod=BBSLMs80Bolts

From what CJ10 has said its uinlikley I will break any. May get refurber to tap the holes though, as I imagine after painting and laquering the threads might be a bit caked up.

@ CJ10, I am getting them done at 1st class alloys in Lichfield. Paul is a good guy, knows his stuff, though the costs seem to be escaltaing from the initial quote, but to be fair I did have 4 rounded bolts, one of which had to be grinded out because my bolt extractor snapped... Doh!
 
Speed12 Interesting. I know Paul very well. We've worked together on a fair few 108's :)

I know time is money and extracting studs, rebuilding rims puts the price up. I've always taken him stripped down rims and done that work myself. Knowing Paul Iand now that one stud is sheared 'd do the same and say if you split them then you rebuild them. Too much worry and responsibility otherwise.

As for the studs I'd buy a damaged wheel off ebay and get the bolts for way less than that. For £50 I'f give you a 108 and all its bolts :)

BTW - if you're stuck I can rebuild them for you in a few minutes once you have the snapped stud re tapped
 
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