Ok, interesting, so where would you suggest going from a Z4MR? Don't want a Cayman or a Boxster! Going to drive an RS4 in the week, but now they are starting to look old IMO and are a little boring so an M3 (with a few toys carbon fibre, exhaust mod etc) seems like a logical choice (and great value). As I want to go skiing in it and seems like such an all rounder. I have driven the DCT and loved it but I think it would get a little dull. So I need to drive a manual. I am thinking about going Aston V8 Vantage or Ferrari 355, as I don't need a car to do loads of miles in anymore and want something special but they would put an end to the drive to skiing and would be changed to a drive to St Tropez in the summer like this year in the Z4MR........ Decisions, decisions, decisions. Any thoughts ideas are more than welcome!!