automatic owners, how do you park?

I never ever use the handbrake on autos, either older generation or new ebrake cars, except on extreme hills. The gearbox pawl is designed to hold the car and alone won't affect the gearbox life.

As an aside handbrakes are a poor way of securing a car as once brakes cool they often release and allow the car to roll. Equally on later generation auto release brakes each drive off takes a slice off the pads. XF handbrake users get trhough rear pads in 5k miles.

Finally in icy conditions handbrakes freeze on and either cables or pads won't release preventing drive off.
 
I feel a lot better now :D

I did the stop, N, handbrake, P today and the only difference was less clunkiness going into park, or back into drive. But that may just have been because I was doing everything more slowly.

Just going to keep doing what I do, as the handbrake is crap anyway. Never even manged a 180 handbrake turn it's so rubbish - just a 30 degree jerk :roll:
 
Taz x said:
a manual i always leave in gear with handbrake on
Same here. 1st gear if level or pointing uphill; reverse gear if pointing downhill.

If it's on a steep slope, I'll also position the wheels so that if the car did (for any reason) roll down the hill, it would go onto the pavement rather than into the middle of the road.
 
Bing said:
I feel a lot better now :D

I did the stop, N, handbrake, P today and the only difference was less clunkiness going into park, or back into drive. But that may just have been because I was doing everything more slowly.

Just going to keep doing what I do, as the handbrake is crap anyway. Never even manged a 180 handbrake turn it's so rubbish - just a 30 degree jerk :roll:

its because its resting on the handbrake and not the gearbox, keep doing it and see if it is better all the time
 
ZedFourM said:
If it's on a steep slope, I'll also position the wheels so that if the car did (for any reason) roll down the hill, it would go onto the pavement rather than into the middle of the road.[/color]

Random fact - this ^^^ is a legal requirement in San Francisco, and you get a ticket, possibly towed for not doing it. Education over :D
 
Both BMWs I've owned have had crap handbrakes.

If P holds the car on a hill, I would be happy with that.


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I do this:

ZedFourM said:
1st gear if level or pointing uphill; reverse gear if pointing downhill.

If it's on a steep slope, I'll also position the wheels so that if the car did (for any reason) roll down the hill, it would go onto the pavement rather than into the middle of the road.[/color]

I also do this :rofl:

Bing said:
I feel a lot better now :D ...

....a 30 degree jerk :roll:
 
cj10jeeper said:
I never ever use the handbrake on autos, either older generation or new ebrake cars, except on extreme hills. The gearbox pawl is designed to hold the car and alone won't affect the gearbox life.

As an aside handbrakes are a poor way of securing a car as once brakes cool they often release and allow the car to roll. Equally on later generation auto release brakes each drive off takes a slice off the pads. XF handbrake users get trhough rear pads in 5k miles.

Finally in icy conditions handbrakes freeze on and either cables or pads won't release preventing drive off.
Exactly what I was going to say, especially the bit about freezing. :thumbsup:

Also, on slight inclines, ease slowly off the service brake once in park to avoid impact loading the parking pawl. If it is hard to take it out of park when you return, that means the hill is steep enough that you should have used the handbrake first. In that case, doesn't matter much which order they're applied, as long the full vehicle weight isn't on the parking pawl.

On manuals, you want it parked while in the lowest gear, which makes it most difficult to turn the engine. On most cars, this is reverse, but on Zeds, it's actually 1st. NEVER in neutral, that's just silly, there's no reason.

The bit about parking towards the pavement (I may be a Yank, but I know what you lot mean by 'pavement') in San Francisco is a bit off, you only do that if there's no kerb, or it's very low, or it's sloped. With a proper kerb, you turn so the car's front wheels will roll into the kerb, then actually let the car slowly roll up to it. When parking uphill, this means turning so the car would have rolled into traffic if there had been no kerb to stop it. Downhill, you always turn off the road no matter what.
 
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