Aussie GP

Agree with mafoo's comments - good summary

Delighted that Vettel did not get P1 and romp off, else that would be another boring season.
Equally pleased to see Williams having a proper car for once.

Story for me is the horrible engine noise. Just a boring low RPM drone with turbo whistle. I used to attend all sorts of F1 races with McLaren and you didn't hear cars you felt them as they screamed by. These just sound boring. What I do like is torque way in excess of grip. Makes for a bit mre fun than Scalextric cars flatout out on most corners.

Will be interesting to see how the Red Bull appeal pans out. Can't imagine Red Bull cheating on something so trackable as fuel flow.
 
ranski said:
gutted for Lewis (again)
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Ditto. Massa was unlucky too. I did enjoy the race alot, although agree that the noise they make is a big disappointment after the visceral scream of the V8/V10 era.

Ricciardo, Magnussen, Bottas, Kvyat - the future is bright! Ricciardo said "I'm tripping balls" in the podium interview - mega. :D
 
The young guys show BIG BOLLOCKS that's brilliant are we seeing a new era or a return to old values with a new slant..... Either way brilliant so glad Hamilton & Vettell had DNF's Hamilton is too smug and I can never forgive Vettell for shafting webber ! IMHO

Bad luck for Massa but he will live to fight another day !

Great so far !
 
cant believe the BBC couldnt put it on live. The BBC does make me sick (i hear there are noises to make the tv licence a civil matter and it cant come soon enough - it should be self funding IMHO)

interesting off the line, but the guy fastest off the line wins .... so i dont know how any of the artifice to make F1 more exciting is working out

I like that Mercedes won.

noises are a bit underwhelming aren't they ... there is very little to compare with the noise of the old engines on full chat - i was grinning like a kid the first time i heard it at silverstone - these sound a bit less exciting.
 
chris g said:
The BBC does make me sick (i hear there are noises to make the tv licence a civil matter and it cant come soon enough - it should be self funding IMHO)
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Make me sick too... I'd love to be able to opt out of BBC. Ok, there's the occasional thing I watch but it's just annoying that I don't get the option to opt out.

As for the noise, yeah it sounded better in the past but times change.... sooner or later they'll all be electric and it'll be even "worse", but arguing against change from the noise perspective is surely not right, the original aim of F1 was to provide the best engineering possible, it should not matter what noise it makes (IMO)
 
Wasn't the whole point of F1 to produce the fastest and most exciting racing? The pinnacle of the sport with the best drivers? Surely the current regs this year are a long way from that and we all know noise is a big part. To try and suggest otherwise would be naive. Ask spectators about the things they really enjoy about motor racing and why they buy their tickets. I'm sure noise and the excitement it creates would be right up there in reasons. There is some desire from some of the participants to test technological advances before filtering their use down to road cars but that is a secondary benefit at best because quite a few of the entrants do not make any road cars nor have any connection with the road car industry.

Maybe we'll just have to get used to it but I can't help thinking this years cars have destroyed a little bit of the spectacle for a lot of people judging by how many people on this thread have mentioned it.
 
Agree with the above.

Also I was planning and on the verge if booking tickets for a race this year but now reconsidering it as The sound is what I like the best and what I enjoyed the best last time...
 
I'm not too bothered about the sound. What I was pleased to see was some apparently genuine racing without DRS.

I'm sick of the artificial DRS passes we see these days. It doesn't address the real issue of overtaking opportunities.

Bring back ground effect I reckon. Make it easier for cars to follow one another without reliance on front rear wings for downforce.

Anyhoo, I actually quite enjoyed the race


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The sound is Horrible, just an annoying drone - to my ears anyway :( The cars seem very hard to drive on the limit, early days I guess. Bottas pretty impressive in the Williams, well until he clipped the wall :headbang: Looking forward to the next race, a bit of unpredictability makes a welcome change :thumbsup:
 
The sound is bad enough for me not to even watch the race, and I have the Sky F1 channel. May get my motor racing fix solely from BTCC this year :(
 
Apparently the organisers have suggested that Bernie and his new hushed cars may have breached their contract.....I didn't know that not only are the cars restricted to 15k revs but the drivers are changing up early to meet the new fuel flow rules. And this is supposed to be racing???!!!! The worlds gone mad.
 
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/motorsport/formula-one-could-be-dying-a-quiet-death-20140316-34vkx.html
 
i did prefer the old sound, it did sound like they were racing more, but i agree you have to move forward, i actualy prefer having DRS, there was nothing worse than watching cars back up against a slower driver because thay couldnt get past due to loss of down force when they were behind another car, i dont think that would be as bad now with the smaller wings though
 
Slightly on topic - name that car sound: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/formulaone/10687266/Formula-One-2014-Do-you-know-your-cars-Name-that-engine.html
 
StevenH72 said:
original guvnor said:
Apparently the organisers have suggested that Bernie and his new hushed cars may have breached their contract.....
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I've not heard this, what's going on?
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From here Steven :thumbsup:

http://www1.skysports.com/f1/news/12515/9218561/australian-gp-organisers-say-the-quieter-engine-noise-could-breach-f1-contract
 
flimper said:
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/motorsport/formula-one-could-be-dying-a-quiet-death-20140316-34vkx.html
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I agree with this. If F1 has to become all tree-huggingly cuddly with hybrid 1.6 litre engines to meet noise and emissions criteria it's finished as a spectacle. Why it has to be so I am yet to understand. These are 26 cars racing once a fortnight - they are hardly damaging the world are they? The CO2 emitted flying all that kit and the people working for the teams, around the globe every year, will be a zillion times greater whether the engines run on green tea or rocket fuel. It's all a load of bollocks. Bernie's gone senile and needs to move on. Then we need someone in who understands what we want to see - overtaking, noise and balls out driving at 10/10ths not poxy fuel management strategies and drivers changing up early and coasting round the circuit.

If F1 has to kowtow to all of the green credentials stuff it's finished. It will be a slow death, as the article suggests, but a death it will be.
 
original guvnor said:
flimper said:
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/motorsport/formula-one-could-be-dying-a-quiet-death-20140316-34vkx.html
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I agree with this. If F1 has to become all tree-huggingly cuddly with hybrid 1.6 litre engines to meet noise and emissions criteria it's finished as a spectacle. Why it has to be so I am yet to understand. These are 26 cars racing once a fortnight - they are hardly damaging the world are they? The CO2 emitted flying all that kit and the people working for the teams, around the globe every year, will be a zillion times greater whether the engines run on green tea or rocket fuel. It's all a load of bollocks. Bernie's gone senile and needs to move on. Then we need someone in who understands what we want to see - overtaking, noise and balls out driving at 10/10ths not poxy fuel management strategies and drivers changing up early and coasting round the circuit.

If F1 has to kowtow to all of the green credentials stuff it's finished. It will be a slow death, as the article suggests, but a death it will be.
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The most convincing argument I've read is that the engine manufacturers weren't interested in continuing with the larger not particularly roadcar relevant big engines, and F1 needed to change to keep them on board - as evidenced by there now only being three engine manufacturers left; I've seen a few news stories/articles to this effect - can't find any now though. Consider that since before the financial troubles of late 2000s, they've lost BMW, Honda, Toyota and Cosworth - first three of which do make roadcars, and Honda now planning to return to the new formula.

Argument doesn't totally stack up for me... like I don't get how an argument that is so linked to cost leads to a solution that must have resulted in millions being spent in R+D!
 
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