Appreciating classic....???
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Mad Professor
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It's just an old car albeit nice to own and drive and costs an above average amount to run
If you like the car for what it is then it's a decent buy cf what else the same money will purchase in terms of performance ,rarity and style .
If you like the car for what it is then it's a decent buy cf what else the same money will purchase in terms of performance ,rarity and style .
Mad Professor
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I'm touring in U.S. at present and haven't seen one yet and I've already been to NY, NJ,CT,FL GA, IL ,WA and AZ
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This was my phoenix yellow S54 MR -nice car but to drive not a patch on the Z4 [aside from the engine ]
Lovely Z3. 
I recall a lengthy test drive in a Z3 3.0 Roadster, when looking for my car. It was total pants in the handling department, to be honest. Didn't consider a Z3M after that drive. The first time I drove the Z4 though, I was in love. Totally brilliant through the twisties, in comparison. Both Great looking cars and I do wish the Z4 was a bit smaller.
I recall a lengthy test drive in a Z3 3.0 Roadster, when looking for my car. It was total pants in the handling department, to be honest. Didn't consider a Z3M after that drive. The first time I drove the Z4 though, I was in love. Totally brilliant through the twisties, in comparison. Both Great looking cars and I do wish the Z4 was a bit smaller.
I bet a z3m in that condition now is probably worth some decent wedge! thats lovely!!
In all honestly YES..... i think the z4m is an appreciating modern classic! i Really do. Its not even that the games moved on.... but more the Game has CHANGED. Cars like the z4m are gone and if you want something to replace it you need to be looking towards the GTS/GT4 caymans, and they are NOT cheap.
In all honestly YES..... i think the z4m is an appreciating modern classic! i Really do. Its not even that the games moved on.... but more the Game has CHANGED. Cars like the z4m are gone and if you want something to replace it you need to be looking towards the GTS/GT4 caymans, and they are NOT cheap.
It's rising, but I don't think it's out performing the market, everything remotely interesting seems to have gone up in value this last 2 years. Personally I think the low petrol costs and the fact most people are earning half decent money (every trades person I know is stacked up with work) contributes to people wanting performance motoring again.
If petrol gets back up to £1.30+ again then I think this'll impact performance car values considerably.
If petrol gets back up to £1.30+ again then I think this'll impact performance car values considerably.
It's perception and the effect of this that forces the market...so everything juicy comes down.
A mate runs a VW garage in Essex, when petrol was at £1.30 and moving up people were chopping in their big engine petrol cars for 'economical' things that made no sense. He was seeing people change from a car doing only 4k miles a year (dropping £20k in depreciation) for a gain 20mpg to 'save money'. Bonkers.
There is often very little logic with the british public.
A mate runs a VW garage in Essex, when petrol was at £1.30 and moving up people were chopping in their big engine petrol cars for 'economical' things that made no sense. He was seeing people change from a car doing only 4k miles a year (dropping £20k in depreciation) for a gain 20mpg to 'save money'. Bonkers.
There is often very little logic with the british public.
Angelus666 said:
I think this is partly to do with the media and scaremongering, a huge percentage of the public are really influenced by these things and will make poorly informed decisions.
Agreed.
Also, I guess if you buy with a HP agreement on a decent rate then these 'appreciating' assets make a lot of sense. Driving an M car for £250 a month and then getting all your money back after 3 years seems like very little risk...compare that to doing your b*llocks in a new M4 over the same period.
Also, I guess if you buy with a HP agreement on a decent rate then these 'appreciating' assets make a lot of sense. Driving an M car for £250 a month and then getting all your money back after 3 years seems like very little risk...compare that to doing your b*llocks in a new M4 over the same period.
Mad Professor
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I recall driving a 2,5 Z4 at the time I had my Z3M and being blown away by the superior handling and made a mental note to get a z4M when they became more affordable .But if I could have the retro looks of the Z3 and the handling of the Z4 then id be sorted .
I'm sorry, but I don't believe that the people buying these cars are the same people who would chop in a big engined car for an economical option. once you're past the cost of buying one, servicing, maintenance, tax and insurance I'm pretty sure fuel cost becomes almost negligible in its effect on the buying decision.
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