Anyone got an intravee AND a gaptech remote open fitted?

[sk93]

Yes, IIRC Bing has both fitted and working

I had both fitted and they both worked but my Gaptech developed a fault and Gary sent me a replacement but I haven't got around to reinstalling it yet

oh really? I don't s'pose I could borrow it for a few hours could I? 8)

I was planning to get it refitted when I have time over the next couple of weekends (the warmer weather is a great motivator) but, if you don't get any joy with Steve, I'm sure we can work something out

dont suppose you're going to the national are you?
Cos.. if you are.. If you brought it along, I'd get what I need done in about 30 minutes on Saturday evening :driving:

 

[jimbo1958]

See, now this is making me wonder if my headlight problem is related to having both fitted... Because even disconnecting the intravee and the battery for 30mins didnt solve it

Steve can record my car if we can get together...

I would try fully disconnecting the gaptech mate...

I had one for 12months or so before it messed up.... And tripped an airbag warning light and my windows and wipers stopped working.

Took it to a garage who said it a short on my kbus... And they spent hours removing items one by one.... At which time i said try that gaptech..... £400 labour and 2 days later the car back to normal... Minus 1 gaptech.

£400 ouch I thought I was the only one that has had Gaptech problems but appears not.
Not as bad as yours but was frustrating as hell. http://www.z4-forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=67952&p=1000783&hilit=parasitic#p1000783

 

[sk93]

I'll engineer mine with an "off" switch

 

[Bing]

That would be useful. I can barely get St my intravee, and now I've got to dig about in the car to remove my favourite toy

 

[PerryGunn]

See, now this is making me wonder if my headlight problem is related to having both fitted... Because even disconnecting the intravee and the battery for 30mins didnt solve it

I'd be quite surprised but easy to test by disconnecting both

All I-Bus messages are all directed messages (device/module/controller to device/module/controller) and have a header specifying the sending & receiving ID. The receiving control modules are supposed to ignore any packets not addressed to them.

For sending I-bus messages, I would expect the Intravee to use the ID of the CD changer, and the GapTech would probably use the ID of one of the relevant body control modules (it would also snoop the bus for the lock/unlock commands received from the remote control)

This is true.. the only thing I'd say is that not all IBUS messages are direct.. there is quite a lot of messages that get sent to GLO (Global), but the LCM doesn't listen out for those afaik

however.. the GapTech does run on the KBUS, rather than the IBUS, so if it's causing some sort of headache on that line, who knows? lol

Ah, I didn't realise the GapTech ran over K-Bus, I just assumed it was I-Bus because when mine was blocking the bus and sending out spurious packets I was getting a lot of warning lights going on/off randomly and AIUI, they're controlled by the Kombi (IKE) module which I always think of as an I-Bus module - I haven't looked at the bus info for a long time but but IIRC on some chassis the IKE is also the gateway between I & K busses so that would still make sense

I didn't mean the I-Bus messages are 'direct' (as in point-to-point), I said 'directed' as they have a receiver ID in the header - the broadcast (GLO) messages are just a special case as the modules accept anything with a broadcast value as the receiver ID as being addressed to them. Strangely enough I seem to recall that the I-Bus uses two different broadcast IDs 0x00 and 0xFF but I haven't got a clue what, if any, difference there is between them

Unfortunately, we're not going to the National but, if you don't get any joy with Steve's research, or find another guinea-pig that's attending, I can always mail you my Gaptech

 

[sk93]

This is true.. the only thing I'd say is that not all IBUS messages are direct.. there is quite a lot of messages that get sent to GLO (Global), but the LCM doesn't listen out for those afaik

however.. the GapTech does run on the KBUS, rather than the IBUS, so if it's causing some sort of headache on that line, who knows? lol

Ah, I didn't realise the GapTech ran over K-Bus, I just assumed it was I-Bus because when mine was blocking the bus and sending out spurious packets I was getting a lot of warning lights going on/off randomly and AIUI, they're controlled by the Kombi (IKE) module which I always think of as an I-Bus module - I haven't looked at the bus info for a long time but but IIRC on some chassis the IKE is also the gateway between I & K busses so that would still make sense

I didn't mean the I-Bus messages are 'direct' (as in point-to-point), I said 'directed' as they have a receiver ID in the header - the broadcast (GLO) messages are just a special case as the modules accept anything with a broadcast value as the receiver ID as being addressed to them. Strangely enough I seem to recall that the I-Bus uses two different broadcast IDs 0x00 and 0xFF but I haven't got a clue what, if any, difference there is between them

Unfortunately, we're not going to the National but, if you don't get any joy with Steve's research, or find another guinea-pig that's attending, I can always mail you my Gaptech

Sweet beans.

And yup.. the IKE is indeed a gateway to the darkside

You're also right about 0x00 and 0xFF, and I too have no idea on the difference (yet!)

 

[srhutch]

Sk93 I have the log file you require.

If you can PM me your email I will send it across.

Logged for:

Remote close
Remote open
One touch close
One touch open

In that Order (before I forget) although the log does tell you this I think.

 

[mac27040]

I have both fitted