Any recommendations to replace stock subwoofers?

BlueZ4

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I am pretty out of my element here, so any info will be helpful.

My passenger sub is starting to sound a bit crackly. I haven't removed the cover, but I am assuming it needs to be replaced. I just want to replace it since I am happy with the OEM sound quality, but the replacement sub is around $220 US. It feels like I can get an aftermarket pair for cheaper than the combined cost of 2 OEM ones, but I'm not sure what to look for. I will be replacing both subs.

I just want to do a straight swap for new subs. What do I need to consider before buying an aftermarket brand?

Thanks everyone.
 
Not sure on the year of your car but the subs in the Zed were a pretty specific high impedance iirc .. there was something weird about them anyway.

You might get something sounding ok by trial and error but as you're happy with the sound I personally would be trying to source one second hand from a breakers, or somewhere like bmwminiparts who may have one in stock.

I doubt you'd get one sent from the UK for much less than $200 though.

Good luck & let us know what you do :thumbsup:
 
problem with after market is you would need an amp to power them.

i pulled my stock ones, if you want to pay for shipping, they are yours.
 
Im sure if the impedance is the same then any driver will do.
Car hifi speakers are usually 4ohms i think and home hifi units are 8.

Pull one out and have a look at the back.
 
Thanks everyone for your comments. I am going to take the speaker out and look at the back. The cover just pops off, right?
 
Just checked & the subs in the Z4 are 10 ohms if it's DSP.. I think only the 'hifi' ones were 2ohms.

I'd go with the member's offer above & buy him a drink :thumbsup:

Z4 Audio said:
Standard audio: 6 speakers, no subwoofers, no speakers in the doors
Hifi: 10 speakers (including 2 subwoofers)
Top Hifi: upgraded 10 speakers (including 2 Carver technology woofers)

All speakers are made by Philips. The “Carver” woofers are also made by Philips but rumours are that they were designed by Bob Carver like his Sunfire woofer series.

The woofers in the Hifi system have an impedance of 2 ohms
The woofers in the Top Hifi system have an impedance of 10 ohms

All speakers have got a good efficiency (dB/W/m), so keep in mind that in most cases when you replace them with aftermarket ones, the sound pressure level will suffer.

The amp on the Hifi and Top Hifi system is located next to the battery in the trunk.

Top Hifi (also called Premium Audio or Carver):

The Top-HiFi audio system consists of following components:
• Radio Business-CD or CID
• Top-HiFi amplifier
• Front left and right low-range speakers (woofers)
• Front left and right high-range speakers (tweeters)
• Front left and right mid-range speakers
• Rear left and right mid-range speakers
• Rear left and right low-range speakers (woofers) in Carver technology
• CD changer (optional)

Top-HiFi Amplifier
With regard to its functionality, the Top-HiFi amplifier corresponds to the previous DSP
amplifier as already used in other model series. The special features on the E85 are the two high voltage output stages (30 V) for the Carver woofers.
The Top-HiFi amplifier has 2 analogue inputs (left and right). In addition, the Top-HiFi amplifier
features a digital input for the CD changer connection (coaxial cable). This arrangement
achieves a higher signal quality.
The top HiFi amplifier is installed in the luggage compartment next to the vehicle battery.

Carver woofers (low-range speakers), rear
The Carver woofers have a diameter of 160 mm and a paper cone in Carver technology.
The maximum load capacity is 100 W. The Carver woofers cover a frequency range from
30 Hz to 150 Hz.
The rear Carver woofers are accommodated in the partition behind the seats. The resonance
volume is approx.10 l.

Carver Woofer Operating principle:
High sound pressure is required for achieving a rich bass. The Carver woofers (low-range
speakers) produce this sound pressure with their small diameter by increasing the
displacement of the diaphragm. The sound pressure is produced by movement in the volume
of air.
The volume of air moved is derived from the diaphragm area multiplied by the displace-
To date to achieve this, the largest possible diaphragm area (diameter of the speaker)
was used in conjunction with relatively low displacement (approx. 3-10 mm). A matching
resonance volume is additionally required.
In vehicle construction applications, this technology leads to a conflict between vehicle
design and vehicle equipment: Due to the design and comprehensive level of equipment,
there is little package space available for large bass speakers.
Carver technology represents a new approach in solving this problem. Thanks to Carver
technology, a high sound pressure is produced with a small speaker diameter by increasing
the diaphragm displacement (approx. 30 mm).
Due to the greater diaphragm displacement Carver woofers (low-range speakers) require a
higher voltage supply than conventional speakers.
A special DSP amplifier with high voltage output stages (30 Vrms) is required for the Top-
HiFi audio system. It is necessary to greatly increase the magnetic force in order to achieve
greater diaphragm displacement. The solenoid was adapted accordingly. A high magnetic
force also means that a high back emf is produced in the solenoid (back emf Uemf=B.l.v).
The back emf counteracts the output voltage of the amplifier thus reducing the effective
voltage at the solenoid.
It is not possible to operate Carver speakers with the amplifiers (radio output stages 6 Vrms)
previously used.
 
Awesome post! So much info.

I removed the speaker this morning and found that the mounting bracket that connects the speaker to the magnet is cracked. The part number of the speaker is 6512 9143269 01, and is close, but doesn't match the part numbers listed at realoem.com so I'm not 100% sure on what system I have or where to buy a replacement (save for the dealer).

You guys really know your stuff. I should buy everyone here a round. 8)
 
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