Any m onwers tempted by the 1m

Really is a Marmite car!

I've done 40,000 miles in my Z4MC now. Nitron suspension, Remus Exhaust, AP's all round, CSL wheels etc etc but even that can't stop me being excited about the 1 Series M Coupe.

I think it looks brilliant.

My only concern is weight. My Z4 weighs 1440kgs (on the scales) and has 340BHP. If the figures are true and the 1er M is 1500kgs and 340BHP it is unlikley to be faster.

But YES - very tempted.
 
The proportions and stance look really promising....

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/10/06/bmw-1m-coupe-stops-by-paris-doesnt-even-stay-for-the-show/

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mikedav said:
The proportions and stance look really promising....

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/10/06/bmw-1m-coupe-stops-by-paris-doesnt-even-stay-for-the-show/

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THat does look quite menacing :)
I think power wise it'll be around 380 - 400hp. Not sure BMW will want the 1 M too be faster than the current M3 though, but surely has to have more power than the 35is.
I thought they were supposed to be unveiling it in September? All I see are a few body parts being exposed
 
Darren M said:
I thought they were supposed to be unveiling it in September? All I see are a few body parts being exposed
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I reckon about 360BHP, as you say it can't step on the M3s toes.

They are teasing the hell out of it do build up the hype and it's VERY annoying. Paris is the second time they have shown flashes of the car but kept it hidden...apparently the full reveal will be before christmas. I just want to see the damn thing.
 
ga41 said:
Looks is such a subjective matter. For example we all love Z4's here but i have a friend who doesnt like my car because she thinks the bonnet is too long and it looks weird.. To each their own.

To me the camouflaged development cars seemed to have a great stance with those pumped up wheel arches and big wheels. They also say that it will be only a limited production run and that it'll only be available with a manual transmission. If it's around the same weight as a Z4 MC, with the same power but more torque, that M diff in the rear and a manual box then i see nothing wrong with that...
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As the saying goes "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder"
 
pilchardthecat said:
You people all need to actually drive a 1 series.

Decent cars, but nowhere near as good as the Z4.
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I have driven probably 6 different 1 Series, but thanks for the tip!

The original question was 'any M owners tempted by a 1M', and IMO if you are, it's for very different reasons to those that led you to a Z4. It has 4 seats, a boot and the standard 1 is already great to drive....with some M fettling, a more aggressive look and some decent power, when compared with it's peers it's an interesting proposition...but we need to see it first!

The Z4 is pretty good but it's no Ferrari Italia. Like every car it has it's flaws, and there are certainly other cars out there that are just as interesting, for different reasons....variety is the spice of life and all that :)
 
Not interested.

There is nothing else that I like (apart from a Lambo, which is currently not affordable!) and plan to keep the zed.

Especially don't want a generic sedan based car. (3 series and 1 series, I'm looking at you)
 
I owned a 130i msport and that was fabulous I loved it, if that car had a diff and 350+ bhp it would have been a weapon!!! The 1m is going to be awesome plus 400hp will be a tune away, imagine turbo work ;-) awesome!! Plus the parts available for the n54 is awesome.


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Driven on Pistonheads:

http://pistonheads.co.uk/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=23&t=914852&mid=165868&nmt=RE:%20Driven:%20BMW%201%20Series%20M%20Coupé

Sounds to me like it has the same "bags of midrange but no top-end" problem as the 135i. It's certainly not on my shopping list. Might as well have a big diesel barge if that's what you want.

"From the outset it’s torque that defines the new car's performance....
Only when you've gone up and down the gearbox a few times do you realise that there was never any danger of running into the rev limiter. The grunt tails off, making it more natural to change up and use the torque than eke out every last horsepower. While there's nothing quite like the thrill of a screaming, naturally aspirated engine, we must be realistic about the times we live in, and turbocharging offers the best balance of performance and economy. "
 
Not mine either but I can see it getting quite a following and a fan base and got to be worth a test drive.
Engine conversion anyone, S54 or V8 to create a more traditional normally aspirated M :)
Made me a laugh in that PH article when it talks about a car designed for the times we live in -' mixture of performane and economy'. When has an M car ever been about ecomony?
Also, I thought turbo charged cars generally used more fuel when pushed hard, or is that not the case anymore? Most economical at peak torque?
 
There's a really good post on the pistonheads thread about how the EU emissions/mpg testing favours lower revving cars with more mid range - they change gear at a fixed proportion of the max revs, so a car that revs to 6k will get changed up at say 3k revs, but a car that does 8k will change at 4k. Hence a low revving torquey turbo car will have better emissions.

This explains why in real life the claimed mpg for such cars proves to be complete bollox
 
Found this:



"1derful M". "A limited production run of 2700 units has been reported, with a healthy percentage of that number heading our way."
Link: motortrend.com

"At the moment the signs are extremely positive. It's the sort of car you get out of wishing you could have more time with. On the strength of what we've seen so far, it fully deserves the M-car billing, even if BMW made the wrong decision by not calling it the M1."
Link: insideline.com

"The thing that grabs your attention as you pull away is its flexibility. It will accept sixth gear at 1000rpm without any unruly shunt and continue to pull hard towards the business end of the range without any dip in demeanour. It’s under load in low gears, though, where it does its best work. Planting your foot in second induces the sort of rolling acceleration to match the 414bhp V8 M3 and it feels terrifically urgent right up to its 7000rpm limit."
Link: autocar.co.uk

"After all, it's difficult not to get excited about a new M car, especially one that supposedly takes its brief from the very first M3. First impressions suggest that buyers are in for a treat."
Link: carenthusiast.com


WOndering if the 7000rpm limit is a typo, the E30 M3 of 1986 revved higher than that so the 1 M loses out there :)
 
Thats the article you guys need to read an original article from BMW GERMANY himself
official data

http://www.m-power.com/_open/b/varlink.jsp?lang=en
 
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