Anti Car Jack Device ......

teamemmenracing

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 West of edinburgh
:D just fitted something I've had on the shelf for a while, its an anti car jacking device which I bought online a while back.

Basicaly, its a device which imobilises the ignition system 30 secs after the credit card sized thingie you have in your pocket is detected out of range.
Means the car car can't be taken even even if they have the keys ...... and the 30 secs gives you time to get away before they figure out whats happened.

Probably never need it ..... but it's a neat gizmo ............. :P
 
What happens if the unit malfunctions on a busy motorway? Does the unit only work if the ignition is off and thus stops the car from starting, or does it cut-out the ignition no matter what?

(Had something called BlackJack on my Clifford 600 system on the Corrado & M5)
 
right Im back ..... :D had a chopper to catch, gotta work to pay the bills and all that,.... anyway .............

Last questions first ......... No, the system is live and will shutdown the ignition system when its running, what happens if it malfunctions ..... well the car will stop I suppose, but Its not a piece of complicated circuitry so Im hoping it will work ok.
The idea is that ...... if you are forced to get out of the car whilst the engine is running (car jacking) .... they will drive for about 30 secs before it all shuts down, putting a bit of distance between you and said unhappy villains.

This one has SPAL written on the box, made in Italy ....... worth a google

and was it difficult to fit ????? only my brother in law could answer that :D but, according the instructions its as difficult as you want to make it, it comes with loads of options which you can connect ..... or not. ie Ignition cut out ......... that plus flashing lights ...... plus alarm siren ....... plus door imobilisers ........
I just wanted the ignition cut out setup.
 
Interesting idea and I can see some merit, but I think I'd stick with the likes of Tracker Horizon for £350 lifetime ownership plus £450 fitting that using GPS will find the car on the move and guide police to a quiet arrest. Detects if its moved without the key, etc. Of course it depends on the value/cost judgement.

Reality is you're probably going to keep this device with your keys in the house where it will be stolen, lose it while out, drive off with it still in the house, etc.

Scary, but I have heard from friends in South Africa that people using these type of devices just get shot or the car torched as carjackers invariably work with a second car and driver :thumbsdown:
 
Personally, if my car gets nicked, I don't want it back!

It'll never be the same, plus it's value will be slashed as a recovered stolen vehicle.
 
not sure I'd want it back after it had been knicked either ...............

buit there's a really sinister part of me that hates the idea of scrotes getting away with it :D ....... I like the idea of the whole thing shutting down half a mile doen the road, even if they torch it ....... :roll:

In fact the best deal I got was from BMW who sold me top up insurance ....... 3 years for 250 quid or thereabouts. If I write it off or it gets knicked, they will top up my insurance payout to the full original purchase price ....... which is pretty awesome, basicaly walk back into the showroom and ask foer another one please.
 
Agree with you that I'd not want my car bac if stolen. That said my buddy had tracker as I described. The car was stolen and just as they drove it into a back street lock up old bill popped round and had it back. 10 miles of drivingand zero damage.

Are you sure the top up insurance pays out back to the original purchase price. I always thought these policies paid out the the cost of buying a like for like replacement? I just cant't see that as right. Buy a car for say £20k after 2 years it's worth say £12k insurance. Identical off dealer forecourt would be say £15k. I'd expect to get the £3k not £8k, else every car ever sold would get torched to make a profit.
 
cj10jeeper said:
Are you sure the top up insurance pays out back to the original purchase price.

I was offered two versions at the dealer when I bought mine.

One was 'gap/shortfall' insurance to cover the difference between the insurance payout and the market value of a similarly specced one.

The other was 'RTI - Return to Invoice' insurance which covers the difference between the insurance payout and the INVOICE value when the insurance was bought. This is the one I bought - in conjunction with tyre insurance - as it was onnly about £5 more than the other one, for a total of about £500 for 4 years cover (I've already had one 19" PS2 rear and one 18" Conti front tyres at a cost of £250 and £180 respectively).

Gap_vs_RTI.jpg
 
Well - I live and learn. That's a great policy for the right car subject to a fair amount of depreciation and from a dealer.

I'd want to read that ;up tot he sum insured clause', but know you;ll have doen that Tony :thumbsup:
 
In my ignorance I thought insurance paid market value for a write-off minus excess.

In CJ's example where do they get the 12k figure from?
 
daveg said:
In my ignorance I thought insurance paid market value for a write-off minus excess.

In CJ's example where do they get the 12k figure from?

CJ's figures are just an example Dave.
 
daveg said:
In my ignorance I thought insurance paid market value for a write-off minus excess.

In CJ's example where do they get the 12k figure from?

You are right in that insurers pay out market (or something close to it, negotiated around that figure, etc.) and often shot much lower, but we were talking about insurance policies to cover the losses betwen what they pay and what it costs to replace.

My example was pure conjecture to illustrate. I just took a new car at £20 and after depreciation and a low offer suggested an insurer may pay out £12k. We all know if you get £12k to get an identical car is going to cost more than that
 
I had the return to invoice value as well for 3 years for £195. As that has expired now, I will resist a bit more if anyone wants to steal the car as it is unlikely I would get a car similar to mine in the same condition back on insurance funds.
 
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