Another M car is coming….Z4m is staying :)
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what made you decide against the GT4 / spyder route for z4m replacement?? did you feel the jump wasn't big enough for the cost? ( which is my opinion anyway btw) I've also noted they seem well done on power only making 350-360hp which when you think the s54 which is really old now isn't that fair off... and that engine is no- where near as special.
super good call on the M2 , i can wait to hear your comparison between the ///Ms.
super good call on the M2 , i can wait to hear your comparison between the ///Ms.
Franzino said:Normally when ordering a M2 at this moment, the waiting time in Europe is +/- one year… I had some unexpected luck with taking over a canceled order of someone else at my local BMW garage who could not get the finance deal covered. I could still configure the entire car and delivery is in 5-6 months (but definitely in 2016!).pvr said:
Pretty exited and will be happy to drive another car, then 11 years in the same 325i touring (my current daily car). I love the chassis, the steering and the smooth 6 cylinder engine of my e46 325, but I think the M2 will be a very nice replacement that will make me forget the 325i. When not driving the M2...the Z4M is also in the garage for some kick ass steering and smooth NA engine feel in a topless body
Great news! I enquired about ordering last Monday and was told if ordering now it would be more like 2019 before you'd get the car
and after driving that cooper S, I'd defo go manual again. So much fun! How I've missed it.Beedub said:
I still adore the Spyder and GT4. For me that are the two car I would trade in my Z4M. There is indeed a big price difference between those two. Maybe one day I will own a more track dedicated car like a GT4 or Exige. Those cars are awesome and in my opinion a step above my 10 year old Z4M. I still love my Z4M and there is zero rush to replace the car. At the end of the day a GT4 or Spyder is indeed a lot of money for a car that I use occasionally (weekends, free days) and sits in the garage most of the time. When I look at my current situation; I drive my e46 325i 80% of the time (daily car) and my Z4M 20% of the time (sun, fun & track).
Before buying another fun car I decided that I wanted a new daily car that replaces my 12 year old e46 325i M-tech estate ( miles). A daily that was fun, a bit more special and still practical for my needs of driving to work, to the store, ski trips. A wagen, touring, estate would be nice...but for me it is not 100% necessary when not having kids.
When making a "want to buy" list 2 used cars where taking the lead of my list; 2013 C63 AMG wagon & 2014 Alpina B3 touring Biturbo (no X-drive). Then there was the launch of the M2...every review was positive about the car. Last month I decided to do a test drive (with manual & DCT). I ended up speccing out and ordering my first new car with delivery at the end of 2016. The M2 will be my new daily and replaces my old 325i....so I will drive it more then the Z4M. I'm exited about the idea of having two totally different M-cars in my garage. Whatever of the two M-cars I take it will always be a bit special
Angie4m said:Franzino said:Normally when ordering a M2 at this moment, the waiting time in Europe is +/- one year… I had some unexpected luck with taking over a canceled order of someone else at my local BMW garage who could not get the finance deal covered. I could still configure the entire car and delivery is in 5-6 months (but definitely in 2016!).pvr said:
Pretty exited and will be happy to drive another car, then 11 years in the same 325i touring (my current daily car). I love the chassis, the steering and the smooth 6 cylinder engine of my e46 325, but I think the M2 will be a very nice replacement that will make me forget the 325i. When not driving the M2...the Z4M is also in the garage for some kick ass steering and smooth NA engine feel in a topless body
Great news! I enquired about ordering last Monday and was told if ordering now it would be more like 2019 before you'd get the car
Maybe Top Gear pushed the sales even more...
Franzino said:Offcourse notsars said:I know people with 4x M-cars.... On this forum I don't know if there are other people with more then one BMW M, but it is not so strange...it makes perfect sense
If I was rich I would have all of the significant M cars in my car shed from the 80s to today. And I would drive them all and love life.
Franzino said:Angie4m said:Franzino said:Normally when ordering a M2 at this moment, the waiting time in Europe is +/- one year… I had some unexpected luck with taking over a canceled order of someone else at my local BMW garage who could not get the finance deal covered. I could still configure the entire car and delivery is in 5-6 months (but definitely in 2016!).
Pretty exited and will be happy to drive another car, then 11 years in the same 325i touring (my current daily car). I love the chassis, the steering and the smooth 6 cylinder engine of my e46 325, but I think the M2 will be a very nice replacement that will make me forget the 325i. When not driving the M2...the Z4M is also in the garage for some kick ass steering and smooth NA engine feel in a topless body
Great news! I enquired about ordering last Monday and was told if ordering now it would be more like 2019 before you'd get the car
Maybe Top Gear pushed the sales even more...
Well unless everyone else saw the top gear episode shown on Sunday a week before it was on tv? I enquired the Monday before (20th June) so I highly doubt that!
It's more likely that dealers have filled up their allocations for the year and year or even years after. It may change as people pull out and go for something else.
Franzino said:Not trying to show off or anything…just sharing my enthusiasm and letting you guys know there is another M car on its way...
I ordered a Mineral Grey M2 with a manual gearbox....and yes the Z4M roadster stays also…!
My garage is going to be awesome and I can hardly believe it
New school vs Old school....Coupe vs Roadster...Turbo vs NA....
M2 for daily traffic and some track.....Z4M for sun and fun and some track :wink:
The M2 will start as a 100% daily driver (it replaces my daily driver 325i)....but I know myself and in time the M2 will probably evolve into daily driver & track and my Z4M will see less track time. The OEM suspension and OEM brakes (with BMW performance pads) are realy good compromise for street & track. The OEM M2 suspension feels almost as good as the PSS-10 on my Z4M. The M2 brakes are not the equally good as the AP's on my Z4M, but IMO with the right brake pads it's getting closer and they are way better then the standard brakes from the 1M and e92 M3.
Dude that isn't showing off, that's doing well..... fair play.
I rate you for keeping the old school, she's a sound investment :wink:I wanted a reason to visit the BMW dealership here, so I went and had a nosey around the M cars.
I do like the look of the M2 a lot, they had one in the dark grey, that would be my colour choice
Just browsing online now but I'm suprised there's no interior colour options. It's the one thing I didn't like about the one in the showroom, too much black.
The M4 interior was much nicer, it had tan coloured seats, which were quite what I'd go for but it was nice to break up all the black. The seats were much cooler too. The outside just feels too big though, I'd rather go all the way to the M5 if I wanted a big car.
Can the M4 seats fit in the M2?
A Z4M in the garage and an M2 daily driver looks like an awesome combo.
I do like the look of the M2 a lot, they had one in the dark grey, that would be my colour choice
Just browsing online now but I'm suprised there's no interior colour options. It's the one thing I didn't like about the one in the showroom, too much black.
The M4 interior was much nicer, it had tan coloured seats, which were quite what I'd go for but it was nice to break up all the black. The seats were much cooler too. The outside just feels too big though, I'd rather go all the way to the M5 if I wanted a big car.
Can the M4 seats fit in the M2?
A Z4M in the garage and an M2 daily driver looks like an awesome combo.
Herminator said:I wanted a reason to visit the BMW dealership here, so I went and had a nosey around the M cars.
I do like the look of the M2 a lot, they had one in the dark grey, that would be my colour choice
Just browsing online now but I'm suprised there's no interior colour options. It's the one thing I didn't like about the one in the showroom, too much black.
The M4 interior was much nicer, it had tan coloured seats, which were quite what I'd go for but it was nice to break up all the black. The seats were much cooler too. The outside just feels too big though, I'd rather go all the way to the M5 if I wanted a big car.
Can the M4 seats fit in the M2
It was the same story with the 1M! I think they do this for two reaons; Less choice keeps the building proces simpler and a bit cheaper for the M2. BMW needs to keep a decent price difference between the M4 to make the M2 attractive from a financial point of view. The M2 is a great car, but offcourse they stil want people to order a more expensive M4 with a lot of options. So BMW keeps a gap betweeen those two. People who want more options or more color choices can find their way to the M4. If we are only talking driving feel and driving experience it is obvious you will buy the M2 instead of the M4, but this is not always the case why people buy a certain car. There can be 50 other reasons why you want a certain car. BMW has to keep a gap between the M2 and M4 and still attract people to the M4. Giving M4 buyers way more options and the opportunity to spec their car more personal can all help to attract a potential M buyer (with more money) to the more expensive (but more individually specced) M4. On the M4 there are indeed more special things (carbon roof, special mirrors, carbon brakes, unique seats, etc)...it all makes sense why it is not on the M2. Still the interior of the M4 is lovely...and if the option of the M4 seats would be available on the M2 I would have ordered them!
Herminator said:
100% correct that was my thought also...especially if the Z4M is a roadster and both cars are way different