Airbag Module Coding NCS Expert

[colb]

Ongoing problem with Youdy's 3,0l Z4 2003 that had an internal fault code for the centre airbag module, have put a used module in this afternoon and coded it using NCS Expert, airbag light won't go out despite clearing codes. We are getting a code on the replacement module for incorrect Vin Number which is surprising as it appeared to code ok using NCS Expert. We are coding the SIM85 module with NCS Expert. Using the same sequence as I did when I coded a Z3's airbag module and that coded ok first go.
Have read some of the old posts on here and can't see why we can't get the light to go off it seems we are doing it right from the details seen in the old posts. If anyone has any suggestions we are all ears.

 

[colb]

Have found an old thread on coding the Vin will be trying the following
INPA: UIF (User Information Field) Report
1-Open INPA>select your car model (E60)>Functional Jobs>F3 UIF
2-You'll see a list of all control units with their ZUSB number and VIN
3-Print to PDF the report.
4-Identify the ZUSB numbers without your VIN and copy from the PDF and close INPA

WinKFP: Edit VIN and Flash Module
5-Open WinKFP (Load SPDaten files google it)
6-Select comfort mode
7-Then click find ZUSB
8-Paste the number you copied
9-this will go straight to the right ZUSB
10-Then enter your full VIN and then click on done
11-Double check that the module your going to flash it's safe to flash with your cable and the battery needs to be connect to another power source
12-Click on update ZUSB (this will flash the module with SPDaten files and re-write the VIN)

NCExpert: Code to Default
13- Open NCExpert
14-Load profile -> Expertmode -> F1 -> F3 -> choose E60 from the list -> choose any module you want from this list -> now click F6 Back -> select F4 Process ECU -> choose Module -> now click ReadECU -> close the notepad window that showed up after the module was read.
15-Press F5 for basic functions -> Select "coapiReadSgGetFswPsw" and click Ok -> Select F2 "job" select SG_CODIEREN and press ok -> Press F3 Execute job and wait for the buttons to become active, when active it's all done.

INPA: Identification Report and Clear Errors
16-Open INPA>select your car model (E60)>Functional Jobs>Identification
17-Print the report to PDF.
18-Look in the SGBD column the module you replace
19-Clear (EM, IM and HM) Errors and Close INPA

Ediabas Tool32: Start System Time
20-Start Tool32
21-Select File->Load SGBD, Group file
22-Browse to the EDIABAS\ECU folder, and search for the file name based on the listed SGBD column. Can be more than 1 file.
23-In the Left of the window select systemzeit_lesen (write)
24-In the middle of the window Argument (value of) type 1 in the dropdown menu
25-double click systemzeit_lesen and done.

 

[TomR]

This is what I did when I had to recode my airbag module. I followed the same guide I think but found a couple of differences on my e85:

https://z4-forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=115539

 

[colb]

Will give it another go when we can get together again.

 

[colb]

Well another 3 hours trying to solve the airbag light with the replacement module fitted, still having no success coding the replacement with the Vin number despite following all the guides we could find using INPA, NCS Expert and Dummy and Winkpf. The old Vin will just not update with the cars correct Vin. The only code showing on the module is Incorrect Vin Number and that is preventing it to be cleared so the airbag light will go off. Any suggestions on solving this would be welcome.

 

[kis]

I had mine done, no problems. Although it was done by someone. So can’t really help with the process… although you’ve probably seen my posts.

Are you sure the other module isn’t compromised somewhere? Assuming it’s fried, it might not communicate correctly?

 

[colb]

Came off a car with no airbag faults, part number same as the original failed module, as its only got the wrong vin number fault showing up I think its fault free, it shows up as connected ok in INPA as do the satellite modules.

 

[DanielS]

When updating the SIM module, make sure all other units are running the same Daten files. The IKE (possibly the EWS also) needs to be on the same Daten files as the SIM unit. At least thats what I read on the E60 cars, I will try and see if I can find that post somewhere again.

 

[mac27040]

https://docs.google.com/file/d/1LdQXN4JM8V0-s6Xa_E9ZeMlkED_i9vpm/edit?usp=docslist_api&filetype=msword

 

[DanielS]

@mac27040 I believe the issue is writing the VIN with WinKfp

 

[colb]

Since we failed to get the Vin number changed using NCS Expert and Winkfp have been looking at Tool32 to give that a try. Not used it before and there is no online instructions to be found on how to do the Airbag module with Tool32, some on other jobs but nothing clear.
The version I have is all in German so that can be a problem choosing the right jobs. Has anyoner got an English 'How to'?
Been having a play with it plugged into my car to read modules and see jobs that can be selected. Found the SIM85 listed in the job menu which should be the module we are trying to write the cars Vin to. Its selecting the actual job from the list of functions thats getting confusing and how to carry out the job to change the Vin number. Could do with an idiots guide to Tool32 if one exhists.

 

[enuff_zed]

Since we failed to get the Vin number changed using NCS Expert and Winkfp have been looking at Tool32 to give that a try. Not used it before and there is no online instructions to be found on how to do the Airbag module with Tool32, some on other jobs but nothing clear.
The version I have is all in German so that can be a problem choosing the right jobs. Has anyoner got an English 'How to'?
Been having a play with it plugged into my car to read modules and see jobs that can be selected. Found the SIM85 listed in the job menu which should be the module we are trying to write the cars Vin to. Its selecting the actual job from the list of functions thats getting confusing and how to carry out the job to change the Vin number. Could do with an idiots guide to Tool32 if one exhists.

Sounds complicated.
Just a random thought, is it worth asking RobbiZ4 to do a video call to help with translation?

 

[colb]

Just had an offer of translation help from another member, German speaker and reader, hoping to get a meeting together with the problem car and between us give Tool32 a go at getting the Vin number written into the replacement module. He is not far from us apparently and up for giving us a hand. If it all works out intend to write it up in English for future reference, bound to crop again on someone elses car.

 

[enuff_zed]

Just had an offer of translation help from another member, German speaker and reader, hoping to get a meeting together with the problem car and between us give Tool32 a go at getting the Vin number written into the replacement module. He is not far from us apparently and up for giving us a hand. If it all works out intend to write it up in English for future reference, bound to crop again on someone elses car.

Never ceases to impress me, the level of resource on this forum.

 

[Zulu4]

Just had an offer of translation help from another member, German speaker and reader, hoping to get a meeting together with the problem car and between us give Tool32 a go at getting the Vin number written into the replacement module. He is not far from us apparently and up for giving us a hand. If it all works out intend to write it up in English for future reference, bound to crop again on someone elses car.

That sounds good colb. Look forward to a how-to as it does sound complex and would be useful.
Perhaps you could then translate it into Welsh, titled "Sut i ddefnyddio Teclyn32"

My airbags are currently fine, but when I scan with INPA, it says it cannot connect and reports "No response from control unit". So I think if ever they play up I may have a problem diagnosing.

 

[DanielS]

Definitely going to follow this, I have a good working version of Tool32, but I haven't been able to program with it just start the system time.

 

[DanielS]

As I haven't figured my mismatch coding out just yet, I was playing around with BMW Scanner 1.4 and I saw a function to change the VIN in there.

Have you tried this?

Ps... If this works out can you send me the download of all your programming data from the SIM? Looking for the hex and programming setup.

 

[colb]

I also found that in BMW Scanner 1.4 but it didn't work when I tried to change the Vin using it.
Still got to try with Tool32 when he can get the car to me.

 

[colb]

Had another go at sorting Youdy's airbag light, since we replaced the main central module with a same part number one we have got rid of the original fault but have been stumped by the replacement having the wrong Vin number coded into it and is keeping the airbag light on.
Our previouse attemmpts at coding the module using NCS Expert, WinKPF have all resulted in failure despite following the instructions others have used with good results. Our latest session was using Tool32 and again following instructions we found attempted to code the new Vin into the module, it will not take the new Vin at all derspite using the SIM85 program and using the correct arguments the job requires. I did have another go using BMW Scanner1.4 to progrqamme the module but again it will not take the new Vin. I did use the Reset Module button and this actually made the airbag light go off. The next time ignition is cycled it obviously runs through the airbag system check and spots the incorrect Vin again and lights the airbag light again, no surprise there then.
At a bit of a loss now what else to try, I suspect one of the expensive scan/coding tools by Autel or Snapon might werll be a way forward since we have tried all the BMW stuff we have access to. Anyone out there with such kit or suggestions on a way forward.

 

[enuff_zed]

Wild stab in the dark time....... if everyone else is telling you they managed it, is it perhaps a duff module?