Aftermarket built in sat nav

chetalien

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My wife has just bought the VW bug- 2004. It doesnt have built in sat nav. I'm looking to get one.
The best so far I've found
G2201E - eonon - 7 Inch Motorized Touch Screen Detachable Front Panel DIVX5.0/AVI/DVD/VCD/MP3/CD Player Built-In GPS Navigation System * Built in maps for the Western Europe *
Model No. : G2201E

- ISO 2 DIN Size
- Screen Size: 7 Inch
- Touch Screen Function
- Drop Down Detachable Front Panel
- Fully Motorized Viewing Angle Adjustment
- Resolution: 480 * RGB * 234
GPS Function:
- Built in maps for the Western Europe
Item & Shipping Location: UK(Titon)
Price GBP £ 220.00-
CLick here for link-http://www.eonon.co.uk/GPS-Navigation/G2201E.html

Pioneer-AVIC-F9110BT Best price so far I have found is £799
Click here for link- http://www.pioneer.co.uk/uk/products/25/111/241/AVIC-F9110BT/index.html

Kenwood has one but its about 1k but with not so good features. Halfords do a navman satnav but i'm not sure how good it is. HAs anyone tried any of these or any other sat navs. I'm not keen on tomtom or any standalone ones.
Advice appreciated.
 
The Pioneer and Kenwood ones are very good, and is the level BMW should be matching with their in-car satnavs (as they charge £2000 for what is essentially a £200 product).

Never used/seen the Eonan one - although it does seem to be a lo-res screen compared to the others (480x234 vs 800x600 or so).
 
Calling the BMW satnav a £200 product is really not fair. True, it's not as state of the art and flash looking as a pioneer, kenwood, tomtom, garmin etc. but don't forget that it *does* have positioning integration with the car. The integrated satnav *will* keep track of where you are when you're in the shadow of buildings or tunnels, whereas all of the other products will get seriously lost when they lose sight of the satellites.
 
I am an OEM man, so I would get the OEM unit from ebay or so. They are a doddle to build into a VW.
 
jhbuining said:
Calling the BMW satnav a £200 product is really not fair. True, it's not as state of the art and flash looking as a pioneer, kenwood, tomtom, garmin etc. but don't forget that it *does* have positioning integration with the car. The integrated satnav *will* keep track of where you are when you're in the shadow of buildings or tunnels, whereas all of the other products will get seriously lost when they lose sight of the satellites.

My £200 TomTom works fine in all the same locations as the BMW one does and it offers everything the BMW one does (although the BMW one does not have a touchscreen).
My TomTom's GPS receiver is integrated into the one unit - I bet the BMW one won't be much use to me when I'm on my bike :P
My TomTom interpolates the data when you go through a tunnel (just as the BMW unit does) and continues with this until it picks up a proper GPS signal.

With the volume of units BMW buy, this product would probably cost them less than £200 .

Would you pay £1000 to retrofit this?
 
TomTom just assumes the same speed and heading, whereas the OEM unit tries to keep a correct position based on the wheel sensors, which also works when you're not going in a straight line. I've had a TomTom, and truly like them, but in built up areas they do tend to lose track. They also do that when driving along mountain passes with a lot of trees overhead (tried that with both a TomTom and a Garmin). So, there is something to say for the OEM solution. I agree they ask far too much for it, not just for the satnav itself, but the maps are also way too expensive... but £200 isn't fair.
 
I spoke to dealer and he said it is a hard job to fit OEM into the car. But can be done. I need to go to the BUG forums and see if anyone has done it.
 
Difficult? I don't really get that as it is nowhere near as difficult as the BMW one.
 
pvr said:
Difficult? I don't really get that as it is nowhere near as difficult as the BMW one.

And the BMW one isnt that hard is it, the worst part has to be the hole cutting :cry:
 
Yes, + the cabling to the rear. Not even required with the VW. Take existing equipment out, have huge amount of space to get to the cables, fit the replacement unit in. Less then an hour by the last count ...
 
If you boys are getting lost in tunnels then maybe Sat-Nav is too little too late :D

My TomTom has never struggled in built up areas, and I know the way to get out of the majority of tunnels :lol:
 
TH3R4POR said:
If you boys are getting lost in tunnels then maybe Sat-Nav is too little too late :D

My TomTom has never struggled in built up areas, and I know the way to get out of the majority of tunnels :lol:

The Mersey tunnels have more than one exit though :P
 
mmm-five said:
The Mersey tunnels have more than one exit though :P

I saw an amazing invention on a TV program once, The TV program was ''What the Romans did for us' and the invention was the "sign post", whatever that is?!?! Crazy Italians... :rofl:

To justify a cost of £2000 for the fact it can judge how far you are through a tunnel if you don't keep a constant speed is scraping the barrel at best :poke:
 
Try driving in NYC coming out of a tunnel with 5 exits and no idea where you need to go as the TomTom lost reception and clears the screen ...

I have learned when I have to use a TomTom in a rental car, to check for the next exit before I go in tunnels / around high buildings.
 
I think it's generally accepted that TomTom work better and are easier to use than the BMW unit for the vast majority of the time though?

Both the guys at my work with 3-series have TomToms fitted in addition to the OEM unit, both have owned BMWs for many years and accept that the OEM unit is below par.

The ability to use it as an Intravee interface is appealing though.
 
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