AE 2.0

T2FFN

Senior member
 East Yorkshire
Ok so it's been a couple years since I did my first CCFL angel eye conversion. This was done as a necessity due to water damage forcing my hand into opening the lights.

The results looked good, for a while, and from 6ft away. This was the end result of AE 1.0
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They had to have 'emergency surgery' to correct them as I'd used 'hot glue' to secure them which proceeded to melt and screw up the installation.
I slowly began to dislike the result because it wasn't perfect. I could see glue. The lens were very tarnished despite my best 'wet and dry' efforts, and recently one of the rings had failed, leaving only 3 lit up. So it began, AE 2.0.

I sourced spare headlights, mainly spares rather than 'good ' units, so I could chop up, experiment etc. I bought a few sets of diffusers, COB LED rings etc. and set about experimenting to see what I could do to get the cleanest fit and finish I could. My current inners were sprayed by a body shop in sapphire black, but I could see a couple areas where the paint had begun to bubble, so clearly they would need redoing, whatever I chose. I wasn't that keen on the very glossy inner, as it caused too many reflections (As you can see in the above picture) and therefore made the AE ring seem blurrier and less defined. I chose to use matt black to try to reduce this blurring and keep it crisper.

I found that the diffuser I bought fit perfectly in the inner light aperture, like it was made for it even, but it wouldn't fit well in the outer light aperture. I tried a number of things including dremeling the aperture to make it fit, but everything I tried resulting in a non-OEM look that I wasn't happy with and in no way did I want anything stuck on the front face of the inner. After doing some trial fitting with the spare light, it was clear there was enough room to fit the reflector to the rear of the inner housing and it not interfere with the rest of the light. I bonded it in place using high temp silicone adhesive. I had to make a small gap in the outer wall of the diffuser to ensure the LED wires weren't pinched when fitted. I bonded the LED rings in place with a little more silicone adhesive, but not loads to ensure if I ever had to, I could remove them cleanly.

In situ:
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I then set about the long clean up of previous silicone between the back rear and clear lens. The lens needed something doing to get it back to it's best as it was showing signs of much oxidation, so having watched and read numerous items on the best ways to clear coat the lens, I set about the wet and dry then clear coating. I was not happy with the result. The clear coat had cracks in it, orange peel etc and looked poor. Probably my fault, never cleared before, but do ok with colour usually. This set me back a couple days as I decided to re-wet and dry them and remove the lacquer, and go at them with the 3M polishing kit from Amazon, and a bottle of UV sealant polish.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0078IHJ1K?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00A3S1RGU?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00

The results were amazing. The 3M kit got them good, but you could still see faint marks, but once two or three coats of the sealant polish had been applied they looked like glass.


While I was 'in there' I noticed the projector lens were quite dirty on the rear of the lens. I had to use a trim tool and microfibre to get into it and clean it all up but the results were night and day afterwards. Very hard to see on a picture, but added a lot of clarity to the projector lens. I think this shot does it best, as it now looks like a bit chunk of crystal, before the clean it was much duller and less reflective.
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I also replaced the rear doors/seals as I hope to avoid any condensation from older seals, even if only a couple years. I also taped some silica gel bags in the doors to help with any little bits of moisture you sometimes see after resealing the lights.

All back together and on the car, crisp and clean: (car isn't clean)



AE 2.0 is complete.

Thanks
 
The silica ones are fine, the ones that can cause damage basically use salt. Some cars come with silica bags in the lights from the factory these days.
 
Well so far so good, not even the slightest fogging, although its been warm and no wet weather yet. Got to say I'm loving the crisp COB LED compared to the CCFLs. I fitted an LED sidelight and tucked it inside the light to prevent the light out warning and the indicators staying on. I actually placed it inside and to the bottom of the light and have noticed I can see a faint light between the light and bumper. I think I'll rectify this at the weekend but otherwise I'm 100% happy, and so pleased to have smooth clear lenses again.

For anyone with oxidized lenses, I highly recommend the above items to bring them back to factory fresh.
 
Looks great mate, how much did it cost you roughly in total?

I'd be happy with just clear indicators and black inners but even sourcing parts are a nightmare!
 
junglist said:
Looks great mate, how much did it cost you roughly in total?

I'd be happy with just clear indicators and black inners but even sourcing parts are a nightmare!

Pretty much:
Wet and dry paper, gloves, 3M kit > £25
Sealant polish > £8
COB LEDs > £20
Diffusers > £5
Paint > £5
Sealant silicone > £10
Doors / Seals > £27 (precautionary as seals are temperamental after removing)

I sourced parts so I could do bits slowly, like spray the inners, fit the diffusers, LEDs etc and spent a couple days on the lenses to get them nice.
 
markplant said:
T2FFN said:
What di you mean auto adjust? Mine are Xenons with auto leveling.
They would be the one's I ment :thumbsup:

If you were to do them for a price I'd be interested.
Good work

This is a really personal project. There's scope for things to go wrong, and I'd hate to mess up someone else's lights which would put me off doing it for others. Plus it takes a lot of hours. :thumbsup:

I'd say if you have some basic ability with these sorts of things, can source some bits for the prep work and have everything ready, spend a long weekend doing it and you'll be happy with the results.
 
Very nice work!
I would love to do ae in my, but I'm afraid of cutting the lens - or maybe just too lazy.
I would love to put some ae behind the oem inner ring, just as pungo did.
But in the end will probably take a path of replacing foglamps with some drl's..
 
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