A superb penultimate f1 race in store , or , maybe not !!
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Alonso finished 13th so wouldn't have got a point for fastest lap. Every single driver should try to get as many points as possible otherwise they shouldn't be there. Shouldn't call him a knob, just because he wants to go as fast as possible to the very end.woozzle said:
woozzle said:
Regarding fastest lap, it could be interesting to see who gets fastest laps in the next race, if it is Lewis or Max toward the end then that pretty much protects them against a crash between the two. If they take each other out and one has fastest lap at the time, they win.
Well that was a complete and utter farce. :headbang:
The circuit isn't fit for F1 - surely if you build a street circuit you need to have some cranes here and there to remove the crashed cars as it is inevtiable there are going to be some.
The only positive outcome is that the Championship wasn't decided at that venue!
The circuit isn't fit for F1 - surely if you build a street circuit you need to have some cranes here and there to remove the crashed cars as it is inevtiable there are going to be some.
The only positive outcome is that the Championship wasn't decided at that venue!
Entertaining, though!Mr Tidy said:
On the C4 show, Max got driver of the day with 26% of the vote!
I don't understand why Hamilton is disliked so much, I really don't.What was the point in a 10 second penalty for Verstappen when he came 2nd, with a margin of much more? Or was it to verify publicly that he did brake when Lewis ran into him? Both go out, he still has an 8 point lead!
Verstappen's sulking on the podium makes him even more of an odius, spoilt little cheat than I already thought. Shame because he is a good driver.
If he puts them both out next week, he will win the championship on race wins. That could be interesting for the FIA.
sp3ctre said:DPG said:buzyg said:I never want to watch another race on that track. Entertaining yes. but a total farce as an F1 race.
Both drivers on message at the end. Wish we could be in on the debriefs. :wink:
Same could be said for a number of F1 tracks where it’s impossible to overtake or the race is won in the pits.
Yeah, although they are never going to get rid of Monaco because of the history. It’s one thing having an inherited track like that, but to design something new that simply doesn’t work is something else.
I bet they will change it for next season. Always difficult with a street circuit but that was just plain bonkers.
I don't like either of them but when a place must be given back the car ceding the place should not have DRS available for one lap - would stop that crap from yesterday
BeeEmm said:Unless one is penalised, of course, usually Max.sp3ctre said:
And rightly so. His driving was beyond the line yesterday and has been on many occasions. How anyone thinks Max is hard done by is kidding themselves after he gets away with moves such as the one in Brazil.
If he didn't drive in such a way that seems to be encouraged by his team boss and no doubt his dad, he'd have had the championship wrapped up by now.
Having said that, it wouldn't be as exciting so I guess we all win in that respect!
sp3ctre said:
Have to finish in the top 10 to be awarded the point so that wouldn't work. Max could take Lewis out at any time and Max would be champion is the long and short of it....although I'm sure that won't happen :roll: :lol:
Does anyone think this "all down to the last race" scenario has been engineered somehow?
Recall there was some rule change in one season where the final race was double points in an effort to provide the same outcome.
Max was penalised during the last race, fairly or unfairly is subject to debate, but has there been any outcome of his complaints when he was deliberately held up during one of the safety cars by Bottas, to allow Hamilton to increase his lead, or when Hamilton at a restart was more than 10 car lengths back making Max wait longer at the front and cooling his tyres?
Recall there was some rule change in one season where the final race was double points in an effort to provide the same outcome.
Max was penalised during the last race, fairly or unfairly is subject to debate, but has there been any outcome of his complaints when he was deliberately held up during one of the safety cars by Bottas, to allow Hamilton to increase his lead, or when Hamilton at a restart was more than 10 car lengths back making Max wait longer at the front and cooling his tyres?
Nanu said:
Interesting idea... It is interesting times for conspiracy theories.... Hard to say whether the FIA is running a conspiracy or is just inept. I really hope the regulations restricting team spend and the changes to the car specs will bring some of the mid table cars closer to the front. It's all very well having Verstappen vs Hamilton, but it'd be much nicer going to the final race with 3 or 4 cars that could win.
I would really love Hamilton to perform in a 2nd or 3rd place car to really see what he is made of, but alas I feel he will bow out on top and so how good he really is will always be up for debate.
If it were all engineered for the final race I think it could backfire, as I can't see a situation where both cars finish this race.
You only have to remain within 10 car lengths during the formation lap prior to the start of the race - the lap from pits to grid after a red flag actually counts as a racing lap (i.e. counts towards the race distance) and there is no requirement to stay within 10 car lengths.Nanu said:
Pondrew said:If you ain't convinced of his talent by now, I fear you would never be. I think winning from last place on the grid in a Haas would be a stretch even for Lewis.sp3ctre said:
I said 2nd or 3rd place car... that is not a HAAS, but rather a Ferrari or even a Red Bull. It's never going to happen though, he won't leave Mercedes now, so what would be interesting to me is if by some miracle Red Bull or Ferrari pull out a winning car next season.. THEN it'd be interesting to see how Hamilton fares.
Still don't understand what Hamilton needs to do to convince. Over the years he has driven some brilliant races, when being in the fastest car wasn't an advantage. He has been consistently peerless in the wet, when the car's superiority has been neutralised. He won the championship with Mclaren, when Ferrari were supposedly the best car.
I understand it's a personal opinion, but disliking Hamilton seems to be 'in' lately (he's been jeered at many tracks this year), which is unfair whatever people think of him off the track.
I understand it's a personal opinion, but disliking Hamilton seems to be 'in' lately (he's been jeered at many tracks this year), which is unfair whatever people think of him off the track.
