A move to the dark side…..

[Pondy]

Problem is that I know what I want the car to do at any given time, but the guessing by the PDK is not always right.

Is that not a common problem with all double clutch autos, though?

 

[pvr]

Problem is that I know what I want the car to do at any given time, but the guessing by the PDK is not always right.

Is that not a common problem with all double clutch autos, though?

Yep, which is why I didn’t want a 35is

 

[BMWZ4MC]

Our Jaguar F Pace has an eight-speed ZF automatic gearbox. It remains in the gear I have selected and happily runs on the limiter if I don’t change gear.
Is there not an option for a full manual mode with PDK? Or does the problem relate to the fact that PDK has to guess whether your next shift will be up or down the gearbox - if it has prepared the wrong gear, it then has to find the correct one? A triple-clutch gearbox would fix that - it always has the next gear ready whether it’s an upshift or downshift!

 

[Mr Tidy]

Pondrew wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2023 5:06 pm
pvr wrote: ↑Sat Aug 05, 2023 3:00 pm
Problem is that I know what I want the car to do at any given time, but the guessing by the PDK is not always right.
Is that not a common problem with all double clutch autos, though?
Yep, which is why I didn’t want a 35is

Maybe that's why all Z4Ms were manual!

That way the car only does what you tell it to do.

 

[M1k3yC]

Is there not an option for a full manual mode with PDK?

Yes, full manual is available. In normal mode, it can be frustrating in the way pvr described. In sport mode, though, it doesn't change up as quickly (for example mid corner) and the experience is smoother. The downside is that sometimes it holds a lower gear when it's unnecessary but you can easily override it and it won't change down again unless you start to press on. I found the smoothest way to drive my dad's was to learn when to pick your own gear and when to just leave it to do its own thing. Even if you're not in full manual mode, when you pick your own gear it goes into manual mode for a few seconds and I think there's a red LED telling you that's what's happening. I quite enjoyed that because I felt more involved with the car. Each to their own.

 

[BMWZ4MC]

My only experience of driving PDK was a 991.2 GT3RS on a track in full manual (and presumably sport) mode. It did everything I wanted it to do and seemed almost as good as a gated manual. It’s disappointing to hear that PDK is dim-witted on the road - if I can ever afford a GT3 it’ll have to be a more expensive manual!

 

[pvr]

if I can ever afford a GT3 it’ll have to be a more expensive manual!

Can’t you be a bit more selective with your patients and only treat millionaires?

 

[BMWZ4MC]

Sadly, the richest patients are the most reluctant to part with their money! :lol: