A little game today ...

[markeg]

When driving back from Lancaster today, long boring motorway trip (M6, M61, M62, M18, M180....) played a little game of "fines"
£100 for spotting someone using a phone
£80 for Lane hoggers/aggressive drivers...

Would have made £500 in phone fines (4 talkers, 1 texter) and £1200 in other fines (13 cases of excessive lane hogging, one driver tailgating and one undertaking and continually switching lanes).

Shame someone doesn't think about enabling the police to do this...... :roll:

 

[Zeld4]

When driving back from Lancaster today, long boring motorway trip (M6, M61, M62, M18, M180....) played a little game of "fines"
£100 for spotting someone using a phone
£80 for Lane hog gets/aggressive drivers...

Would have made £500 in phone fines (4 talkers, 1 tester) and £1200 in other fines (13 cases of excessive lane hogging, one driver tailgating and one undertaking and continually switching lanes).

Shame someone doesn't think about enabling the police to do this...... :roll:

Vote the fantastic Conservative party in and we might get it. Other wise vote in the lefty liberal twots and they'll make twice as much money by declaring the use of cars illegal by any one who isn't a retard.

 

[dr_john]

Lane hogging worries me TBH. I mean, isn't it just the opposite of lane switching? It's often a lot safer to stick in the same lane than changing continually.

It's seems a very subjective decision to declare that someone is hogging.

 

[danmiddle2]

Lane hogging worries me TBH. I mean, isn't it just the opposite of lane switching? It's often a lot safer to stick in the same lane than changing continually.

It's seems a very subjective decision to declare that someone is hogging.

Lane hogging isn't subjctive at all... if the lane to the left of you is free... move one lane to the left. It's simple. There is nothing dangerous about pulling into an empty lane!

 

[Half Colin]

Lane hogging worries me TBH. I mean, isn't it just the opposite of lane switching? It's often a lot safer to stick in the same lane than changing continually.

It's seems a very subjective decision to declare that someone is hogging.

Lane hogging isn't subjctive at all... if the lane to the left of you is free... move one lane to the left. It's simple. There is nothing dangerous about pulling into an empty lane!

x 2 ...... and you are definitely hogging if someone is coming up behind you and the lane to your left is free.

I don't mind people driving in the middle lane if there is no-one else around. We all do it to avoid the lorry ruts in the inside lane, but I wish people would watch their mirrors and pull over when someone else comes along.

 

[sars]

For someone who does a lot if motorway miles, I have to agree that hogging isn't a black and white issue, yes there are plenty of times when it's an obvious case of not moving over and I believe we should penalise offenders here.

However there are instances when it's subjective, for instances how much free space betwween vehicles vs how fast you are going does it make sense to move over. Five car lengths at a 20 mph differential is to short to be worthwhile but the same space at a 5 mph differential is

Thus it becomes more of a feeling when it's okay and when it's not, for the experienced motorway driver it becomes a subconcious decision. For those using the motorway infrequently, reminders and penalities may be required

 

[dr_john]

For someone who does a lot if motorway miles, I have to agree that hogging isn't a black and white issue, yes there are plenty of times when it's an obvious case of not moving over and I believe we should penalise offenders here.

However there are instances when it's subjective, for instances how much free space betwween vehicles vs how fast you are going does it make sense to move over. Five car lengths at a 20 mph differential is to short to be worthwhile but the same space at a 5 mph differential is

Thus it becomes more of a feeling when it's okay and when it's not, for the experienced motorway driver it becomes a subconcious decision. For those using the motorway infrequently, reminders and penalities may be required

Exactly.

It's easy to say move over to the left if the lane is free, but what if there is an artic a few hundred yards ahead doing 50mph on the inside lane? Am I supposed to move over and get stuck behind him, or run the risk of being booked for lane hogging? This is what I mean by it being subjective.

Incidentally, I come from a generation that grew up with the introduction of motorways. The 'golden rule' at that time was:- inside lane for slower moving traffic, middle lane for faster moving traffic, outside lane for overtaking only. I'm not saying what's right and what's wrong, but the rule does seem to have changed somewhat.

 

[aquazi]

For someone who does a lot if motorway miles, I have to agree that hogging isn't a black and white issue, yes there are plenty of times when it's an obvious case of not moving over and I believe we should penalise offenders here.

However there are instances when it's subjective, for instances how much free space betwween vehicles vs how fast you are going does it make sense to move over. Five car lengths at a 20 mph differential is to short to be worthwhile but the same space at a 5 mph differential is

Thus it becomes more of a feeling when it's okay and when it's not, for the experienced motorway driver it becomes a subconcious decision. For those using the motorway infrequently, reminders and penalities may be required

Exactly.

It's easy to say move over to the left if the lane is free, but what if there is an artic a few hundred yards ahead doing 50mph on the inside lane? Am I supposed to move over and get stuck behind him, or run the risk of being booked for lane hogging? This is what I mean by it being subjective.

Incidentally, I come from a generation that grew up with the introduction of motorways. The 'golden rule' at that time was:- inside lane for slower moving traffic, middle lane for faster moving traffic, outside lane for overtaking only. I'm not saying what's right and what's wrong, but the rule does seem to have changed somewhat.

My dad said the same thing and says he should stay in the middle lane, until i corrected him... And from what i recently learnt in my speed awareness course.. We all sign the box when we get put licence saying we will keep up to date with the highway code... Since i passed 12 years ago there have been over 150 amendments.... Although in reality i have never actually read it


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[Stuart Truman]

If you have to change lanes again within 20 seconds stay put. If you pull in leaving less than a 2 second gap to the car behind you're being inconsiderate and if you make it brake you're driving without due care and attention or arguably dangerously.

If you're closing on a vehicle that can't move for the reasons above then ease off. Intimidating someone into moving is also bad driving.

Simples (and as taught to me by a class 1 police instructor)

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[PerryGunn]

If you have to change lanes again within 20 seconds stay put. If you pull in leaving less than a 2 second gap to the car behind you're being inconsiderate and if you make it brake you're driving without due care and attention or arguably dangerously.

If you're closing on a vehicle that can't move for the reasons above then ease off. Intimidating someone into moving is also bad driving.

Does that mean that if you're closing in on a vehicle that could move over, and hasn't, you don't have to ease off and it's OK to flash lights and gesticulate wildly at the f*ckwit? :evil:

 

[sars]

If you have to change lanes again within 20 seconds stay put. If you pull in leaving less than a 2 second gap to the car behind you're being inconsiderate and if you make it brake you're driving without due care and attention or arguably dangerously.

If you're closing on a vehicle that can't move for the reasons above then ease off. Intimidating someone into moving is also bad driving.

Simples (and as taught to me by a class 1 police instructor)

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Good advice

 

[markeg]

Just to add, in all (bar one) of the cases of "not moving over" I quoted, motorway was clear for some distance and the car was bimbling along in the middle lane. The one exception was a BMW 3 series, in the outside lane, driver almost prone position with one hand on the steering wheel and the other fiddling with his phone... thought they all drove Audis these days?? :roll: