991 GT3RS

[Angelus666]

Is it a manual box?

Not available on the .1 gen cars which I assume this is being 5 years old.

Looks fantastic, enjoy! I drove my friend's a year or so ago for an hour or so, sadly in SE traffic, lovely car.
For me though I'd want to be tracking it and from what I've read the .1 gen engines have an unpleasant habit of going bang under hard usage on track, hence the redesigned valve train for .2. Did they not do a 7 year warranty or something on these engines after the original batch caught fire? There's about 6 or so revisions so far by Porsche to this engine from what I have read

That's the standard 991.1 GT3, which was a 3.8 version with all the internet hype. Actually, it only affected the very first batch of the cars, and Porsche quickly acted revising the design and updating all the 3.8 cars for the remainder of the run. Typically with the internet it massively overplays things. There were only 2 reported cars that caught on fire across the world and only 14 cars that really needed their engines changed. Porsche has given a free 10-year warranty on all .1 cars to show their confidence in the engine....but the reality is you'd be crazy not to warrant the cars anyway through Porsche as it's the same price on a C2 as it is on a GT3RS...

Mine is a RS, which is a 4.0 car and there have been no reported issues with these ones. They did update the engine design to generate 20 more HP in the .2 cars, for both GT3 and RS.

 

[Angelus666]

That looks very nice, especially without number plate.

Is it a manual box?

On the RS it's PDK only in both .1 and .2 cars

 

[BeeEmm]

c'mon where is the number plate in the Bluewater shot?

 

[Angelus666]

I picked it up on the Friday and it only has one of the tiny sticker plates (which you get fined for running with) and you don’t pick up any fine for no plate. I’ll get a GT3 private plate and get a full sized sticker plate to run it with.

 

[Nanu]

Nice machine. If you can afford it why not I say You only get one chance at this life and you are a long time dead.

Enjoy

 

[TomK]

Is it a manual box?

Not available on the .1 gen cars which I assume this is being 5 years old.

Looks fantastic, enjoy! I drove my friend's a year or so ago for an hour or so, sadly in SE traffic, lovely car.
For me though I'd want to be tracking it and from what I've read the .1 gen engines have an unpleasant habit of going bang under hard usage on track, hence the redesigned valve train for .2. Did they not do a 7 year warranty or something on these engines after the original batch caught fire? There's about 6 or so revisions so far by Porsche to this engine from what I have read

That's the standard 991.1 GT3, which was a 3.8 version with all the internet hype. Actually, it only affected the very first batch of the cars, and Porsche quickly acted revising the design and updating all the 3.8 cars for the remainder of the run. Typically with the internet it massively overplays things. There were only 2 reported cars that caught on fire across the world and only 14 cars that really needed their engines changed. Porsche has given a free 10-year warranty on all .1 cars to show their confidence in the engine....but the reality is you'd be crazy not to warrant the cars anyway through Porsche as it's the same price on a C2 as it is on a GT3RS...

Mine is a RS, which is a 4.0 car and there have been no reported issues with these ones. They did update the engine design to generate 20 more HP in the .2 cars, for both GT3 and RS.

My bad you're quite right, it's the standard gt3 3.8 that has problems, not related to fire issues mind.
Give it a good spanking then!! 8)

"no it’s well documented that if you track the 3.8 series 991 GT3 hard the engine will let go. The valve train design is fundamentally flawed hence the complete redesign for for the 991.2 4.0 gt3 series.
That headline 9k rpm is also only available in first gear, each gear after that it drops a little. Porsche are now on engine revision “G” and they are still letting go if you track. And you can see it in the values of the 991 now they are coming up to the end of the 10 year warranty period, they have dropped hard, whilst the 991.2 4.0 gt3 series are still commanding good money.
I only know all this as I was about to buy one, and luckily did my due dilligence before hand. Wouldn’t touch a 991.1 gt3 with a barge pole unless just planning to pose and cruise in it, as who wants to be holding the bag for a 40k engine replacement outside of warranty"

 

[RedUn]

So, this bad boy turned up last week.....wowzers, what a weapon this thing is. It really feels like a race car that you can drive on the road. The motor is a masterpiece and there are some similarities to the S54 in that it can sound like a bag of marbles at lower speeds, but once you get it up to 9k rpm range it's a real event to the senses. Even at 5 years old, it's a car that draws so much positive attention, people taking pictures and coming over to chat about it. It's probably my all-time ultimate sports car, so feel very fortunate to now own one.

The speed at which this thing can take corners is simply unbelievable....relatively tight right-handers where I'd only go in at 40mph max in the Z4MC you can do at 70mph easily in the RS. The rear tyres being 325's provide phenomenal grip.

I'm going to semi-daily drive it, which is probably stupid, but f*ck it, whilst I still can you might as well. (I hope the single-mass flywheel doesn't become a pain, as it makes a right old noise in full automatic mode)

Stunning! 8)

Only thing I'd be wary of semi daily driving is the lack of underseal and the cup 2s!

 

[Mr Tidy]

That looks fantastic, especially in that colour. :wub:

Good to see you plan to use it too - so many cars like this just sit in garages most of the time!

 

[Angelus666]

So, this bad boy turned up last week.....wowzers, what a weapon this thing is. It really feels like a race car that you can drive on the road. The motor is a masterpiece and there are some similarities to the S54 in that it can sound like a bag of marbles at lower speeds, but once you get it up to 9k rpm range it's a real event to the senses. Even at 5 years old, it's a car that draws so much positive attention, people taking pictures and coming over to chat about it. It's probably my all-time ultimate sports car, so feel very fortunate to now own one.

The speed at which this thing can take corners is simply unbelievable....relatively tight right-handers where I'd only go in at 40mph max in the Z4MC you can do at 70mph easily in the RS. The rear tyres being 325's provide phenomenal grip.

I'm going to semi-daily drive it, which is probably stupid, but f*ck it, whilst I still can you might as well. (I hope the single-mass flywheel doesn't become a pain, as it makes a right old noise in full automatic mode)

Stunning! 8)

Only thing I'd be wary of semi daily driving is the lack of underseal and the cup 2s!

Yep, the cup 2s will be switched over for 4s later in the month. Although, I’ve been pleasantly surprised at how good the cup 2 have been in the cold weather.

 

[Beedub]

Not available on the .1 gen cars which I assume this is being 5 years old.

Looks fantastic, enjoy! I drove my friend's a year or so ago for an hour or so, sadly in SE traffic, lovely car.
For me though I'd want to be tracking it and from what I've read the .1 gen engines have an unpleasant habit of going bang under hard usage on track, hence the redesigned valve train for .2. Did they not do a 7 year warranty or something on these engines after the original batch caught fire? There's about 6 or so revisions so far by Porsche to this engine from what I have read

That's the standard 991.1 GT3, which was a 3.8 version with all the internet hype. Actually, it only affected the very first batch of the cars, and Porsche quickly acted revising the design and updating all the 3.8 cars for the remainder of the run. Typically with the internet it massively overplays things. There were only 2 reported cars that caught on fire across the world and only 14 cars that really needed their engines changed. Porsche has given a free 10-year warranty on all .1 cars to show their confidence in the engine....but the reality is you'd be crazy not to warrant the cars anyway through Porsche as it's the same price on a C2 as it is on a GT3RS...

Mine is a RS, which is a 4.0 car and there have been no reported issues with these ones. They did update the engine design to generate 20 more HP in the .2 cars, for both GT3 and RS.

My bad you're quite right, it's the standard gt3 3.8 that has problems, not related to fire issues mind.
Give it a good spanking then!! 8)

"no it’s well documented that if you track the 3.8 series 991 GT3 hard the engine will let go. The valve train design is fundamentally flawed hence the complete redesign for for the 991.2 4.0 gt3 series.
That headline 9k rpm is also only available in first gear, each gear after that it drops a little. Porsche are now on engine revision “G” and they are still letting go if you track. And you can see it in the values of the 991 now they are coming up to the end of the 10 year warranty period, they have dropped hard, whilst the 991.2 4.0 gt3 series are still commanding good money.
I only know all this as I was about to buy one, and luckily did my due dilligence before hand. Wouldn’t touch a 991.1 gt3 with a barge pole unless just planning to pose and cruise in it, as who wants to be holding the bag for a 40k engine replacement outside of warranty"

thats good info, didnt know this ....

 

[Angelus666]

'Values have dropped hard' does make me laugh.....they are an 8 year old car that is now back at list price

Whilst I'm not denying there were some issues, the engines are nowhere near as fragile as the internet makes out. Talk to RPM Technik and they'll confirm the same thing. Out of 6300 built there are a very small number of early cars that had engine issues. I would have no hesitation in buying one of these cars.

 

[Phoenixboy]

Absolutely stunning. Love the colour. You won’t be leaving that in Sainsbury’s car park will you?

Ha, had it's first shopping trip to Bluewater on the weekend

love the parking space selection.
exactly what I would do.

 

[Argyll Andy]

'Values have dropped hard' does make me laugh.....they are an 8 year old car that is now back at list price

Whilst I'm not denying there were some issues, the engines are nowhere near as fragile as the internet makes out. Talk to RPM Technik and they'll confirm the same thing. Out of 6300 built there are a very small number of early cars that had engine issues. I would have no hesitation in buying one of these cars.

Values, while always a factor for any purchase, aren’t the be all and end all, especially for something like this, so for me it’s if you can and want too why not go for it

Do what you’ve done and buy what you can and want as I said previously, it’s stunning, the colour is excellent and enjoy every mile in it

I know I would if I was in the position to own one

 

[Beedub]

if your ever my way , drop her in the shop for a couple days and ill give her some love , ZERO charge.... just cus your an OG of this forum.

 

[TomK]

'Values have dropped hard' does make me laugh.....they are an 8 year old car that is now back at list price

Whilst I'm not denying there were some issues, the engines are nowhere near as fragile as the internet makes out. Talk to RPM Technik and they'll confirm the same thing. Out of 6300 built there are a very small number of early cars that had engine issues. I would have no hesitation in buying one of these cars.

I haven't really looked at values of these but were they not £100k without options when new? This seems to be the going rate for the older cars
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/12531005 Hardly heavy depreciation I agree but I do think that as they approach the 10year mark the values will fall quite hard as the engine is then out of warranty. I guess we'll see fairly soon...
There's a chap on a fb track group I'm on where his '16 GT3RS engine has gone pop at 15k miles, so I don't think the early fire issues are related to these issues coming up with tracked cars. I also imagine not that many of them do get tracked that hard, hence it not being a huge problem for Porsche.
Of course it's warranted for the moment so no big deal, other than losing your car for a while.

 

[Angelus666]

if your ever my way , drop her in the shop for a couple days and ill give her some love , ZERO charge.... just cus your an OG of this forum.

Very kind of you Sir! I'll probably look to get her PPF'd in the near future, so had it in my mind to contact you for that!

 

[Beedub]

if your ever my way , drop her in the shop for a couple days and ill give her some love , ZERO charge.... just cus your an OG of this forum.

Very kind of you Sir! I'll probably look to get her PPF'd in the near future, so had it in my mind to contact you for that!

lovely, i can sort that for you no problem, but genuinely my offer is outside of any paid work..... ill get that thing looking like it was brand new from the factory 8) 8) 8) and it will be loved and pampered like NO OTHER man can do.

 

[Angelus666]

That's an amazing offer mate and I'll definitely take you up on that offer! It's ceramic coated with an IGL coating, but it's not what I would call amazing. The lava orange isn't the deepest of colour to work with, but I'm sure you work do your magic with it!

I'll figure out a few dates that might work and book it in with you!

 

[Beedub]

That's an amazing offer mate and I'll definitely take you up on that offer! It's ceramic coated with an IGL coating, but it's not what I would call amazing. The lava orange isn't the deepest of colour to work with, but I'm sure you work do your magic with it!

I'll figure out a few dates that might work and book it in with you!

Done deal.

 

[Ole gits rule]

Not a massive porker fan but my god that could make me change my mind quite easily, AA is right, bright green is great but the orange for me is spot on