50mph national speed limit
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Got in trouble for mentioning this to SWMBO who has picked up 6 points on the same stretch of (straight, good visibility) rural road in the last 2 weeks...
My big issue is with people who do forty-fifty mph in the National Limit areas and then continue at the same speed through the 30 limits. Grrr.
My big issue is with people who do forty-fifty mph in the National Limit areas and then continue at the same speed through the 30 limits. Grrr.
It would make a big difference, we discussed it previously here and I think the general concensus was that it will make the muppets on the roads even worse. Instead of getting stuck behind some arse doing 50mph they'll be doing 40mph, and I know plenty of roads where you couldn't pass someone doing that speed for more than 10 miles.
The white circle with the black stripe means go as fast as you like within reason dosent it? the 30 40 50 are just numbers to be taken as an estimate of how fast you should be going for example if it says 30 do 35 all of the time 40 do 45 all of the time or if you have to slow compensate by doing 50 when it says 50 do 55 or compensate by doing 70 when its the national speed limit of a frankly pedestrian 60mph do 60 not 50 or 45 as some rover drivers seemingly have mastered the art of.
Ugghhh I got so p***ed off saturday by some skoda fabia driver with a born again fisherman sign on the back doing 30mph in a 60 I just overtook the string of cars in its wake like 4 and then it hitting I think around 100mph in 3rd before braking for the lights where another s**t box of a car an old nissan micra was waiting which I strategically timed 2nd gear so I blasted past on the chequers
naughty I know but I was angry :x trouble is its ppl like that, that get ppl like me arrested for speeding which is why we should have a minimum not a maximum speed limit.
Ugghhh I got so p***ed off saturday by some skoda fabia driver with a born again fisherman sign on the back doing 30mph in a 60 I just overtook the string of cars in its wake like 4 and then it hitting I think around 100mph in 3rd before braking for the lights where another s**t box of a car an old nissan micra was waiting which I strategically timed 2nd gear so I blasted past on the chequers
naughty I know but I was angry :x trouble is its ppl like that, that get ppl like me arrested for speeding which is why we should have a minimum not a maximum speed limit.
ItHurts said:
X2 Got stuck behind some of these drivers at the weekend :x
When i slow down to 30mph for a village they sit right up my arse so i love pressing the sport button and wait for the magic sign
unless they overtake me through the village then i get stuck behind them doing 45mph in the 60mph zone :x :x :xBad idea imho. When speed limits make sense to drivers, they reinforce the hazard and importance of the speed limit.
When they are abused, and the limits don't appear to represent the prevailing conditions, then drivers will tend to choose their own speed, and then their confidence in the signed limits is called into question... so when they are set sensibly because of real hazards, they may be ignored.
A given national limit road might be fine at 100mph one day, one minute, even for a brief moment, and the next 10mph may be too fast.
Thankfully, our roads are, all said and done, pretty safe, and that is with many thousands of drivers being caught speeding daily, and they are just the ones being detected. Everyone speeds, and most of the time it is totally and perfectly safe. We can choose safe speeds. Meddling with limits will only confuse those who have difficulty choosing safe speeds even more, be that too fast and too slow for the conditions!
Yet, all at the same time, we have more people dying of accidents during operations in hospitals alone, than on the roads, or dying of ONE bacteria type in hospitals alone, and many many times more from smoking and drinking etc etc... all these could be reduced much more effectively, needless pointless deaths!
Some road/driver education might help a great deal too.
Ah, they all cost money, while catching 'speeders' makes money
silly me :x
When they are abused, and the limits don't appear to represent the prevailing conditions, then drivers will tend to choose their own speed, and then their confidence in the signed limits is called into question... so when they are set sensibly because of real hazards, they may be ignored.
A given national limit road might be fine at 100mph one day, one minute, even for a brief moment, and the next 10mph may be too fast.
Thankfully, our roads are, all said and done, pretty safe, and that is with many thousands of drivers being caught speeding daily, and they are just the ones being detected. Everyone speeds, and most of the time it is totally and perfectly safe. We can choose safe speeds. Meddling with limits will only confuse those who have difficulty choosing safe speeds even more, be that too fast and too slow for the conditions!
Yet, all at the same time, we have more people dying of accidents during operations in hospitals alone, than on the roads, or dying of ONE bacteria type in hospitals alone, and many many times more from smoking and drinking etc etc... all these could be reduced much more effectively, needless pointless deaths!
Some road/driver education might help a great deal too.
Ah, they all cost money, while catching 'speeders' makes money
silly me :xThats pretty much it, it generates revenue the same as road tax and tax on fuel, any sensible driver knows what speed to do anyway I would think? and the relative stopping distance for said vehicle, anyone that concentrates on actually driving that is.
Not doing make up, on the phone etc.
A good driver can usually anticipate the bad decisions by other drivers, usually dithering old ppl but not always.
There was a pretty bad smack involving some doddering 60yr old in a toyota yaris and a westfield on the 449 this week, apparently head on but I dont see how as its dual carridgeway.
What we need on the roads are better drivers not lower speed limits and cameras.
Some drivers think of 60mph as fast, I think of it as more of a target because realistically most modern cars will corner safely at 60mph even rubbish ones like kia's
bad 4x4 drivers are the worst tho, they seem to think they're gonna fall over so slow down to 40 for anything other than straight, and there I am in a high top van right behind em cornering at 60 lol :lol: although in the wet it can get a bit understeery... fwd tho so whats the worst that could happen, actually I push it so its a bit understeery, 95bph and 3000kg is hardly gonna set the world alight.
Ok im waffling......
Not doing make up, on the phone etc.
A good driver can usually anticipate the bad decisions by other drivers, usually dithering old ppl but not always.
There was a pretty bad smack involving some doddering 60yr old in a toyota yaris and a westfield on the 449 this week, apparently head on but I dont see how as its dual carridgeway.
What we need on the roads are better drivers not lower speed limits and cameras.
Some drivers think of 60mph as fast, I think of it as more of a target because realistically most modern cars will corner safely at 60mph even rubbish ones like kia's
bad 4x4 drivers are the worst tho, they seem to think they're gonna fall over so slow down to 40 for anything other than straight, and there I am in a high top van right behind em cornering at 60 lol :lol: although in the wet it can get a bit understeery... fwd tho so whats the worst that could happen, actually I push it so its a bit understeery, 95bph and 3000kg is hardly gonna set the world alight.
Ok im waffling......
Near where I have lived they have put 50mph limits and average speed cameras on previously 70mph roads... safety and accident reduction was cited the main reason yet the roads are night on straight and to crash would take some doing.
The access roads joining a national speed limit A road with no slip lanes were probably more an issue than the speed (that and the pedestrians crossing at night when there are signs forbidding it), it just feels so slow to get anyplace now
The access roads joining a national speed limit A road with no slip lanes were probably more an issue than the speed (that and the pedestrians crossing at night when there are signs forbidding it), it just feels so slow to get anyplace now
Adam D said:Near where I have lived they have put 50mph limits and average speed cameras on previously 70mph roads... safety and accident reduction was cited the main reason yet the roads are night on straight and to crash would take some doing.
The access roads joining a national speed limit A road with no slip lanes were probably more an issue than the speed (that and the pedestrians crossing at night when there are signs forbidding it), it just feels so slow to get anyplace now
Exactly, in that case the road is just inherently dangerous. Making it even sensibly engineered would help, but instead we get a cheap and nasty solution, reduced speed limits to reduce the severity of accidents and so reduce injury/death, rather than stop accidents in the first place...
It really is the cheap solution, and is sold as the best one under the lie of 'speed kills'
Dave