4-pot mileage

enuff_zed

enuff_zed

Lifer
 Attleborough, Norfolk
I have no knowledge of the 2.0 4-pot other than what I have gleaned from this forum. A lot of that seems to be negative, but maybe that's because the people who are happy with those don't shout about it?
There is currently a very nice 2.0 being advertised for sale, with a good history for a reasonable price. It's been hanging around for quite a while though, due no doubt to the mileage being 191k !!!
Assuming a bit of haggling would take place, would any of you consider this worth a punt?
Just a silly little itch I feel the need to scratch.
 
Can't speak for the 4 banger, but I know from personal experience that any 6 pot M5* engine is capable of stratospheric mileages.
Highest I personally attained was 261k miles on an M52B25TU.
My M54B30 is now on 150k and still pulling strong and I'mexpecting at least another 100kmiles out of it. :evil:

The fact that a 4 pot has 191k miles on it is testament to how durable it obvioulsy is and that's probably accounted for by how it's been looked after. However, as an investment proposition I doubt you would see a profit unless you're looking to do a quick tidy-up and get lucky finding a buyer. 6-pots are more desirable and may even become an appreciating classic.

What's the asking price?
 

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Chris_D said:
Can't speak for the 4 banger, but I know from personal experience that any 6 pot M5* engine is capable of stratospheric mileages.
Highest I personally attained was 261k miles on an M52B25TU.
My M54B30 is now on 150k and still pulling strong and I'mexpecting at least another 100kmiles out of it. :evil:

The fact that a 4 pot has 191k miles on it is testament to how durable it obvioulsy is and that's probably accounted for by how it's been looked after. However, as an investment proposition I doubt you would see a profit unless you're looking to do a quick tidy-up and get lucky finding a buyer. 6-pots are more desirable and may even become an appreciating classic.

What's the asking price?
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Cheers Chris. Don't look for profit tbh. The whole car tinkering thing is more for my mental well-being. After doing up wifey's 2.5i she commented how much more relaxed I always was after a weekend of working on it. Same happened with the 2.2i I got. I do have a 3.0i in the wings but it's out on loan for at least the next three months.
If I can pick up a car, do a few bits to it, drive it and enjoy it, then sell it on without loss I'm more than happy. Still makes it a free hobby.
This one is up for £1900 but I'd be looking to go down a bit from that if I went for it.
 
Fairy nuff.
Even if it's tidy and everything works I'd offer a cheeky 1500 and a pint.
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Good spec? Any pics?
 
Chris_D said:
Fairy nuff.
Even if it's tidy and everything works I'd offer a cheeky 1500 and a pint.
(?)
Good spec? Any pics?
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https://www.gumtree.com/p/bmw/bmw-z4-full-mot/1422940327
 
enuff_zed said:
If I can pick up a car, do a few bits to it, drive it and enjoy it, then sell it on without loss I'm more than happy. Still makes it a free hobby.
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It does as long as you can sell it on afterwards. Near 200k miles may prove difficult to shift, which s presumably why the car in question is hanging around.
It would seem the 2L is the least desirable, and cheapest, E85 even without starship mileage.
Did you not fancy the one to break?
 
enuff_zed said:
Chris_D said:
Fairy nuff.
Even if it's tidy and everything works I'd offer a cheeky 1500 and a pint.
(?)
Good spec? Any pics?
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https://www.gumtree.com/p/bmw/bmw-z4-full-mot/1422940327
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Looks tidy enough from the photos. Nothing not to like there apart from those titchy wheels.
Heated seats make it attractive.

Not much of a tinkerer's project though? What would you do with it if it's tidy from the outset?
I'd still aim for a 6-banger if you're looking for a project. More to do as a project I would suspect and a healthier potential return. Just my own opinion tho. :wink:
 
So pretty rare I'd guess, with it being a pre-facelift 2.0
And it at least has heated seats, in red.
But I think that your relaxed state after a weekend of fetling, could well become a state of absolute frustration after weeks trying to fix the various engine fault codes that will, at some time, certainly appear with that engine.
Compare the price to what a 100k mile 2.2 would probably cost, and make a considered decision. Personally, I think it's expensive.
 
Chris_D said:
enuff_zed said:
Chris_D said:
Fairy nuff.
Even if it's tidy and everything works I'd offer a cheeky 1500 and a pint.
(?)
Good spec? Any pics?
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https://www.gumtree.com/p/bmw/bmw-z4-full-mot/1422940327
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Looks tidy enough from the photos. Nothing not to like there apart from those titchy wheels.
Heated seats make it attractive.

Not much of a tinkerer's project though? What would you do with it if it's tidy from the outset?
I'd still aim for a scruffy 6-banger if you're looking for a project. More to do as a project I would suspect and a healthier potential return. Just my own opinion tho. :wink:
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Pondrew said:
enuff_zed said:
If I can pick up a car, do a few bits to it, drive it and enjoy it, then sell it on without loss I'm more than happy. Still makes it a free hobby.
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It does as long as you can sell it on afterwards. Near 200k miles may prove difficult to shift, which s presumably why the car in question is hanging around.
It would seem the 2L is the least desirable, and cheapest, E85 even without starship mileage.
Did you not fancy the one to break?
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Truth be told, I'm simply getting itchy fingers to tinker with another one.
The breaking option in hindsight is not going to go down too well in this neighbourhood.
Been chatting to Stuart (Bigwinn) and reckon the only way to make that 4-pot viable really would be to buy it and use it as a daily on the understanding it would either make a loss or I'd have to break it for spares if it expired on me.
Head and heart still in conflict. Need a project to turn up quickly. :roll:
 
Sidewaze Samm said:
So pretty rare I'd guess, with it being a pre-facelift 2.0
And it at least has heated seats, in red.
But I think that your relaxed state after a weekend of fetling, could well become a state of absolute frustration after weeks trying to fix the various engine fault codes that will, at some time, ceratainly appear with that engine.
Compare the price to what a 100k mile 2.2 would probably cost, and make a considered decision. Personally, I think it's expensive.
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Coming round to that way of thinking too.
Sometimes you just need to bounce ideas of people for a while.
All input is much appreciated.
 
enuff_zed said:
Need a project to turn up quickly.
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Depends what you term a project - and what budget.
I have a 2006 2.5si that needs a bit of bodywork tidying and a couple of niggles. Can't decide whether to track it or sell it, if that's the kind of thing that can solve the itch...
 
Martin, do you keep an eye on Anglia Car Auctions in King's Lynn? They have general auctions each week and the odd E85 goes through there. They also have 'classic' auctions every month or so, some interesting stuff there too.
I find it quite interesting just to 'browse' if nothing else :thumbsup:
 
Pondrew said:
Martin, do you keep an eye on Anglia Car Auctions in King's Lynn? They have general auctions each week and the odd E85 goes through there. They also have 'classic' auctions every month or so, some interesting stuff there too.
I find it quite interesting just to 'browse' if nothing else :thumbsup:
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Certainly worth a look, ta.
 
Argyll Andy said:
Pondrew said:
I find it quite interesting just to 'browse because it’s been at least 3 weeks since I changed my car
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There, fixed that for you :thumbsup:
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Funny you should say that.............. :)
 
enuff_zed said:
Pondrew said:
enuff_zed said:
If I can pick up a car, do a few bits to it, drive it and enjoy it, then sell it on without loss I'm more than happy. Still makes it a free hobby.
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It does as long as you can sell it on afterwards. Near 200k miles may prove difficult to shift, which s presumably why the car in question is hanging around.
It would seem the 2L is the least desirable, and cheapest, E85 even without starship mileage.
Did you not fancy the one to break?
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Truth be told, I'm simply getting itchy fingers to tinker with another one.
The breaking option in hindsight is not going to go down too well in this neighbourhood.
Been chatting to Stuart (Bigwinn) and reckon the only way to make that 4-pot viable really would be to buy it and use it as a daily on the understanding it would either make a loss or I'd have to break it for spares if it expired on me.
Head and heart still in conflict. Need a project to turn up quickly. :roll:
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I know that feeling

:poke:
 
enuff_zed said:
A lot of that seems to be negative, but maybe that's because the people who are happy with those don't shout about it?
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I don't know why, it's no less reliable than a 3.0; I have both, so I should know. The weak points on the 2.0 are different to the 3.0, but often far less to address; i.e., I've done the VVT on my 2.0, brand new, genuine part, £160; go and look at the cost of replacing/rebuilding a Vanos unit. Mine's done 130k, no chain slack, it's not burning oil, everything works as you'd expect.

As for reliability of the engine, again, I wonder how much of the negative stuff comes from people that don't own one; there are far, far, far more of these 2.0 BMW engines in the world than the 3.0 straight six or the 2.5, the 2.0 in your Z4 is the same unit found in the 3 series, X series etc., etc.

As for driveability, the 2.0 is perfectly good enough to have fun, and having considerably less weight over the front axle the turn-in is better than the 3.0. It's not as quick, but it's not what I'd call slow, and unless you're buying a Z4 because you want the ultimate acceleration or tractability then the 2.0 is plenty of fun. It has a different gearbox to the 3.0, you can tell it's "lighter weight", but it's a shorter throw and equally as slick so you don't feel like you're missing out. My reasons for buying a Z4, all those years ago, were because they looked good, they're very modern inside with regards to design, and still are, and they don't smell/sound like a traditional convertible; notice, power/speed wasn't really a main consideration for me and still isn't.

What I would absolutely say is that until I owned a 2.0, I would have been like the other nay-sayers and said "Get a 3.0, or a 2.5 at a push", but having owned a 2.0 I'd retract that in a heart-beat.
 
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