2011 Z4 Road Trip

Taz x said:
Are you advised at the borders?

There tends to be 5000 signs saying 'Vignette Here' above lots of huts and shops as you approach the border, but yes usually there is a sign or an official office where you can get one, just keep an eye out when you head towards a border. Not relevant for France, Belgium, Germany etc though
 
The Swiss vignette is ONLY required if you use the motorways.

Slovenia there was no charge, most countries that do charge collect via motorway tolls rather than a vignette, not been to Hungary or Bulgaria so not sure.

As Mikedav says though, most European countries don't require one. The following I've been too recently (ish) and are not required, Germany, Austria, Italy, Slovenia, Spain, France, NLs, Lux, Belgium, Andorra.

The AA/RAC sites will probably have accurate details.

Cheers
L
 
Hark said:
Rach* said:
Will the big passes be open that early in the year?

We went to the Stelvio last year and a few other passes and some were open not all. That was May.

I've been up May/Jun/Jul/Aug over the years, there was snow on the top, but of course the world doesn't stop over there at the first scattering of white stuff :roll:
 
This may be useful, just type in your countries and all is explained,

http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/overseas/countrybycountry.html?mySelect=%2Fmotoring_advice%2Ftouring_tips%2Fslovenia.pdf&go.x=45&go.y=18
 
Taz x said:
I am thinking I may change my dates, leave it till end of May or beginning of June

That's what I'm thinking. My friends in Switzerland advise the best passes may still be closed or worse, wet and risky up until end of April, beginning of May. Otherwise, the rest of the route, Millau Bridge, French Riviera etc will be fine from March onwards.
 
mikedav, just checked on autoroute, Ljublijana is 1170 miles, not too far, looks a nice destination
 
Slovenia is very nice indeed. Near Ljublijana a nice little place Kranska Gora. From that area an its within easy travel to Italy and Austria

My road trip is already planned (ish) for July /August - Planned route is Sail from the Tyne £350 if booked now or about £400 if booked nearer the date (DFDS). Drive from Ijmuiden to the Koblenz area then on down to Staufen-im Breisgau (Black Forest) Drive down thro Zurich to Cher and then over the Spluggen pass into Italy and pootle around Lake Como.
We did the German bit last year so we know the hotels we are staying at and will sort out the Italian bit when we get there.

I know the ferry is expensive but I did my sums and its a break even deal with a 20 mile trip to the ferry on the tyne v a 400mile hike to Dover and a cheap crossing - and because I'm at codger age I would need an overnight hotel prior to the crossing!

I did the Spluga with my Disco 3 and caravan - I'm sure the Z will be faster and less stressful!
 
Taz x said:
is it easy enough to find digs when you are on your travels?

Yes, never had problems anywhere in Europe. Usually start looking around 5 ish, settle in, shower and then food/beer/wander :thumbsup:
 
Taz x said:
is it easy enough to find digs when you are on your travels?

As above, leaving it until you get there means you can stop whenever you find something interesting. Unlike the UK it doesn't seem you get raped very often by not pre booking your hotel on the continent, generally (especially outside cities) you get a reasonable rate just turning up.....And you aren't committed if you turn up to a place that looks like something out of Hostel - you can just go somewhere else
 
I always pre book the first night. I think it gives a good time to take stock and speak to local folk. Oh and have a beer or three! Its a holiday rememberB-)!
 
i am thinking i will head to Soll in Austria, I went skiing there 25 years ago and said i would go back again

on the way down i may do lake como in Italy, I may even go further and do Slovenia
 
Lance said:
Taz x said:
is it easy enough to find digs when you are on your travels?

Yes, never had problems anywhere in Europe. Usually start looking around 5 ish, settle in, shower and then food/beer/wander :thumbsup:

If you're planning on covering a lot of miles and you have just 14 days to do your trip i would suggest pre booking accommodation is not a bad thing. It's incredibly easy to find accommodation through the internet or via i-phone.

On my most recent trip around switzerland and italy turning up knowing i had a guaranteed room with a balcony in San Gimignano, being just where we wanted in Venice, having a gorgeous place to stay within walking distance of Florence city centre and safe parking all along was invaluable.

A choice of accommodation can actually be the highlight. The year before we drove to Verona and I had booked for us to stay in a castle North of Lake Garda, actually near Trento, the look on my wife's face was priceless as we drove into the castle grounds. I have posted details of the castle in another thread but if you're interested (anyone else for that matter) let me know, food and drink are fabulous and the hosts superb. Verona, if you don't make arrangements for parking and register your car then you can be fined for just entering the old city.

If you've driven 4-500 miles in a day trying to find somewhere to sleep isn't always a lot of fun and if you pre book at least you have an idea of the quality of accommodation you will end up with. If you pre book you can also plan the distances you will need to travel, it will give you a chance to plan down time and exploring time.

When i had three months to travel i didn't care where i drove, how long for or in what direction, i also was happy to sleep on the roadside or wherever suited.

When i have 14 days i want every moment to be perfect and don't want any of it wasted in needless tasks.
How you think you will enjoy your trip will dictate your choice obviously, for some seat of the pants accommodation searching can be one of those things that 'makes the trip' but it can ruin it. Check for the equivalent of bank holidays and fayres in the areas you are going to, i once turned up in Dijon when a classic car rally was going through, i loved the cars until i realised the drivers had taken all of the available accommodation and we ended up 10 miles outside of the city in a flea pit that the thought of still gives me nightmares.

You may not want to drive every day so make sure your final target/ turn around point is a realistic one and prioritise what you want to see. Driving to see how far you can get from the uk is ok till you realise that you have a mother of a drive to get back and you're in a sweat for time. Also don't forget that driving the mountains takes a lot longer than you think and the passes are not always convenient to get to where you want. Yes you can take a tunnel to speed things up but then why drive the alps for example if all you see is the inside of a 27 degree centigrade and ten mile long tunnel.

You may want to stop somewhere and spend a day driving around to get the best of the scenery. Interlaken is a great place in Swizerland and from there it is easy to drive the grimsel, susten and furka, a brilliant day for scenery and twisting roads.

Hmmm, now i'm making plans for my next trip, good fun isn't it :)
 
Mmmmm, problem IMO with pre booking is that you now have a deadline to be somewhere at a certain time and booking online means you can't get the feel of the place nor the location.

Personally, I have never booked ahead on any of my 25+ road trips and in the main have been well pleased with where I stayed, yes there have been a few (shall we say) interesting places however there have been some stunning places too. Some nights I've gone posh and stayed 5* and ate extremely well, others i've stayed 3* and ate at the local pizza place and moved on to a local bar, both choices bring great experiences and memories.

Planning makes sense to some degree, but for me part of a road trip is about the adventure and the unknown bits, too organised makes it dull/sterile by me.
 
I can see both arguments for booking and not booking, I think I will just set off and see where I end up

The castle at Lake Garda sounds a brill idea but it sounds like it may be out of my price braket
 
Taz, maybe easier just to stay at home and sit in the Z for a couple of hours each day :wink: :)
 
How do ypu intend to travel over the water? I suppose Hull / Rotterdam is your closest port and there are no tolls to pay thro Holland and Germany?
 
ronk said:
How do ypu intend to travel over the water? I suppose Hull / Rotterdam is your closest port and there are no tolls to pay thro Holland and Germany?


i was thinking of going and getting the euro tunnel but open to suggestion
 
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