2007 Z4M with 26k miles just come up on eBay
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Japseroony said:
With the low mileage,things like Vanos shouldn't be an issue,as they tend to be from 60k upward, generally speaking.
But I would,as Andy/Mr Wilks suggests, service records should be Spot on,at £20k ask,so.usual M stuff mate....
Run in service at 1200 miles,give or take, Oil and Inspection 1 & 2 services done in the correct order/time, regardless of the mileage/low use.
(Some people think it's ok just to give them an oil change with low use,but regardless,it should get Oil/Inspection 1, Oil, Inspection 2 in that order,at least every 2 years,which I'm sure you will know from owning other BM's.)
Not much else,but many threads on here re Conrods,etc but again,too low a mileage for that to be an issue,imo.
Check if it's had Valve clearance done at Every Inspection service,may need to call dealers/service places to verify,but worth it,as Very important on these,and many "specialist" BMW places don't do it,when I asked about mine,or they say they will so it same day as you take it in,which isn't True....needs to be cold,so needs in the night before
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So I think I now know why this car is still for sale - its the service history or lack of it :thumbsdown:
The car is an 07 reg with just under 26,000 on the clock and the service history is as follows;
26/06/07 Pre-delivery inspection
15/07/07 Running in service - BMW garage @ 1136 miles
23/08/11 Inspection 1 service Blue Bell Crewe @ 6216 miles
26/07/13 Oil service Blue Bell Crewe @ 18209 miles
24/11/18 Oil service Sytner Solihull @ 24206 miles
So no inspection 2 and only really sporadic oil changes so I think its been run on a very tight budget and not for me
The car is an 07 reg with just under 26,000 on the clock and the service history is as follows;
26/06/07 Pre-delivery inspection
15/07/07 Running in service - BMW garage @ 1136 miles
23/08/11 Inspection 1 service Blue Bell Crewe @ 6216 miles
26/07/13 Oil service Blue Bell Crewe @ 18209 miles
24/11/18 Oil service Sytner Solihull @ 24206 miles
So no inspection 2 and only really sporadic oil changes so I think its been run on a very tight budget and not for me
Japseroony said:So I think I now know why this car is still for sale - its the service history or lack of it :thumbsdown:
The car is an 07 reg with just under 26,000 on the clock and the service history is as follows;
26/06/07 Pre-delivery inspection
15/07/07 Running in service - BMW garage @ 1136 miles
23/08/11 Inspection 1 service Blue Bell Crewe @ 6216 miles
26/07/13 Oil service Blue Bell Crewe @ 18209 miles
24/11/18 Oil service Sytner Solihull @ 24206 miles
So no inspection 2 and only really sporadic oil changes so I think its been run on a very tight budget and not for me
Yeah,patchy service records.
But it may have been the (misguided) belief that some people have with low mileage cars,that if they aren't doing many miles,then it's fine to leave it 4 or 5 years between services,lol.
You could argue for and against that all day,as some do,but regardless of mileage,it needs done every 2 years as a minimum,so it's missed out on services in 2009,2015 and 2017, plus as you say,No Inspection 2.(due 2015).
Not to mention it should have had 2 Inspection 1 services and 1 Inspection 2 service by now,with valve clearances and shims done each time.
Shame,as it looks a good example otherwise.
Annoying that some owners say if it's only doing 1000 miles a year it doesn't need Oil changed etc, but ,while probably true to a point,letting it go more than 2 years without any services is poor imo.
Good luck with your continued search if you go ahead with one mate
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Cheers Craig, will let everyone know what I eventually do get and this one looked to fit the bill but think unless there is a huge movement in the price its not for me 
Stay safe mate
Stay safe mate
1066 Country
OP - Suggest you ask yourself is there a price point you’d still buy it?
If so, suggest you have a conversation with the seller, saying whilst the car is low milage it’ll always have this shoestring budget service history which for any future buyer will be an issue.
IMO, if it runs & drives cleanly, if you acquired it for around £15k then I think that’s be fair to both parties
If so, suggest you have a conversation with the seller, saying whilst the car is low milage it’ll always have this shoestring budget service history which for any future buyer will be an issue.
IMO, if it runs & drives cleanly, if you acquired it for around £15k then I think that’s be fair to both parties
Jembo said:
You make sense Jembo but I doubt that'd sway a dealer, I’d think they’ll sit on it and wait for someone not as clued up as Jasperoony, which will happen sure as night follows day, giddy knees and love at first sight can tramp all over logic...! :lol:
It’s a tricky one as usual with these cars, how many have really had their running in service despite what the book says..? I’d wager there’s a decent amount running around that haven’t knowing how some dealers work on tight service times, they didn’t bother with my low mileage 35is’s first service..... :x So mechanically this car here might or might not be in any worse or better state than any other really. You can buy a low miles car, keep it up to date with services on the dot for years but being 2nd 3rd hand you don’t know it’s first stages of life, a minter might have been ragged to death from cold for the first 10k. Anyhoo Jasp is probably doing the right thing.
For a car to make good money/top money then it MUST have a FULL service history, regardless of miles driven. I personally would not touch it with gaps of five years in between oil changes, unless the prices reflects this. However just remember this when you sell it on as the next owner is likely to also want a full service history unless your selling price in a few years reflects it again!
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Jembo said:
So spoken to the stealer who is apparently selling for a customer.
I asked what would buy the car taking into account the service history and he said they had turned down an offer of £19,000 so my interest ceased right there and then and no discussion was allowed as the stealer put the phone down on me when I said I was thinking along the lines of £15,000 due to the poor service history :thumbsdown:
Not worth further thought even with the low mileage as like others have said its the selling on that will cause me issues in the future
I think all the dealer needs to do is get a fresh ins2 done which in the trade should cost him no more than £550/£700 & possibly fresh rubber depending on d o m.
Then at £19950 with a warranty & garage prepped I think he's close to getting it sold .
Or its a £18k & buyer fettles , I think £15k Jembo is a step too far :wink:
Then at £19950 with a warranty & garage prepped I think he's close to getting it sold .
Or its a £18k & buyer fettles , I think £15k Jembo is a step too far :wink:
mr wilks said:
A tactic to see if they were interested in a conversation :wink: :wink: obviously not yet...
With clear interest, any dealer will hold out... though if it’s still there 31st Jan it’ll be obvious the minimalistic S/H’s a problem & it’ll then just be a matter of whether the owner needs to get it sold
I remember a supercharged & race modified blue ///M roady which started off north of £25k... I spoke to who finally bought it after 7-8months of being listed & the impression I got was he acquired it close to what I suggested
Jembo said:
Never any harm making contact & chatting numbers , very often it can lead to middle ground but you have to weigh up what's on offer , its a lovely looking car , great colour combo / spec & obviously the very appealing mileage of just 26k .
You can gripe about the history but that is what it is now , stamps in books rarely determine a cars current condition so anyone interested needs to get their toes in front of it , have good look & more importantly listen , a decent S54 stands out pretty easily , so does a bad one
Also needs bearing in mind there are 2 sellers with this car , the owner most likely would settle for £17k/£18k when presented with the facts on Ins2 , at the same time the dealer isn't going to punt it on for nothing & is probably not fussed if it sits in his showroom for 12 months , he is unlikely to have any money tied up in it .
If the car was of interest after viewing there needs to be a 3 way chitchat to find the figure to make all parties happy , there will be one .
Japseroony said:Jembo said:
So spoken to the stealer who is apparently selling for a customer.
I asked what would buy the car taking into account the service history and he said they had turned down an offer of £19,000 so my interest ceased right there and then and no discussion was allowed as the stealer put the phone down on me when I said I was thinking along the lines of £15,000 due to the poor service history :thumbsdown:
Not worth further thought even with the low mileage as like others have said its the selling on that will cause me issues in the future
Have you seen mine for sale? Cheeky ask but I can answer any questions you might have... it’s on the sale board. I’m open to sensible offers. Higher mileage but VANOS and Rod bearings both done last year
Plus new back boxes and full service history and all invoices. 3 owners including me...