2 litre

lacroupade said:
Hellequin said:
just when I decide on a 2litre, someone throws in the point that a 3 litre has 6 gears and is not SO bad on the motorway!

the facelifted 2.0 has a 6-shpeeda thank you.

And in all honesty, if you want to keep your driving licence and not have sky-high insurance premiums, a car that does sub-8 secs to 60 and just under 140 is perfectly adequate in my book. And whatever people say, driving a ragtop with the roof down at more than 100 for sustained periods isn't that comfortable IMHO.

As you keep mentioning it, is the ability to keep a driving licence purely down to engine size and potential acceleration? Or the attitude of the owner who is able to exercise self control when appropriate? Even a 1.2 Corsa can (and does!) do 100 in a 60 limit in the hands of a moron.
 
Even a 1.2 Corsa can (and does!) do 100 in a 60 limit in the hands of a moron
I love this place! The banter on this forum is classic... long may it continue :thumbsup:
 
Well even my humble 5 speed pre-facelift 2.5 averaged 35ish mpg over 640ish miles on the Skye run.
When we moved from Suffolk to Scotland it managed an incredible 42mpg in the hands of my wife as she refused to drive her car seeing as how it was towing my motorbikes and had bicycles on the roof rack, I've never managed to better 38ish.

So all in all don't base your purchase on percieved ecomony as the reality is they are all pretty similar, get out there and try all flavours and see which puts the biggest grin on your face.
 
Bradders75 said:
lacroupade said:
Hellequin said:
just when I decide on a 2litre, someone throws in the point that a 3 litre has 6 gears and is not SO bad on the motorway!

the facelifted 2.0 has a 6-shpeeda thank you.

And in all honesty, if you want to keep your driving licence and not have sky-high insurance premiums, a car that does sub-8 secs to 60 and just under 140 is perfectly adequate in my book. And whatever people say, driving a ragtop with the roof down at more than 100 for sustained periods isn't that comfortable IMHO.

As you keep mentioning it, is the ability to keep a driving licence purely down to engine size and potential acceleration? Or the attitude of the owner who is able to exercise self control when appropriate? Even a 1.2 Corsa can (and does!) do 100 in a 60 limit in the hands of a moron.

Completely, utterly and absolutely, for the majority of us, YES. (And who the feck wants to do 100mph in a Corsa anyway????).

Anybody who wants to tell me they buy a 160mph car so they can pootle around within the speed limit trying to get 40mpg is either bonkers or lying - and guess which one I'm going for?

If you own a car with a big envelope why on earth would you not be tempted to explore it? If you aren't, then I'd suggest its the wrong car and its a lot of money to pay on purchase, maintenance, insurance etc.. just to hear something go 'burble'.... :)

So yes, most of my points (especially expired ones) were acquired in cars that took me past the legal limit without blinking. Hence I've slowed down in my old age.
 
lacroupade said:
Completely, utterly and absolutely, for the majority of us, YES. (And who the feck wants to do 100mph in a Corsa anyway????).

Anybody who wants to tell me they buy a 160mph car so they can pootle around within the speed limit trying to get 40mpg is either bonkers or lying - and guess which one I'm going for?

If you own a car with a big envelope why on earth would you not be tempted to explore it? If you aren't, then I'd suggest its the wrong car and its a lot of money to pay on purchase, maintenance, insurance etc.. just to hear something go 'burble'.... :)

So yes, most of my points (especially expired ones) were acquired in cars that took me past the legal limit without blinking. Hence I've slowed down in my old age.

It's good that you can speak for the majority but I'm sure you still break speed limits and each time you do, your licence is at risk, yes? Don't be bitter just because some of us can break them that little bit faster and with a far more satisfying sound track. :D As for additonal costs, thankfully I can afford it and thoroughly enjoy blowing money on things that bring me pleasure without sacrificing life's essentials.

When I'm an oldie driving a slower model variant (because of my poor reaction times and failing eye sight, haha), I look forward to making similar points to yours to any younger folk who will listen. :thumbsup:

Agree with you on the Corsa though but the point was valid...
 
imo the 2.0 is more then adequate.... to most people a 2.0 will look identical to a 3.0 (however those in the know will know about the silver headlights and twin exhaust pipes!), and with the UK roads the way they are pootling along in traffic they will drive the same!

The 3.0 will be better equipped.. with electric seats, dimming mirrors etc which add to the experience.. and buying second hand will be near impossible to find a 2.0 with electric memory seats!

However the reason i got a 3.0... as its nice to know if you need it you have the extra power when some chav pocket rocket tries one on you :evil:
 
At the risk of going off on another tangent on this thread, Has anyone put an induction kit on their 2.0l. I've got the K&N panel filter on mine and it does make it sound a little more fruity. But I'd like the full induction kit experience. Problem being all the induction kits are for the 2.2l and up. Is it possible to fit a kit designed for the 2.2/2.5/3.0 on to a 2.0l?
 
Bradders75 said:
lacroupade said:
Completely, utterly and absolutely, for the majority of us, YES. (And who the feck wants to do 100mph in a Corsa anyway????).

Anybody who wants to tell me they buy a 160mph car so they can pootle around within the speed limit trying to get 40mpg is either bonkers or lying - and guess which one I'm going for?

If you own a car with a big envelope why on earth would you not be tempted to explore it? If you aren't, then I'd suggest its the wrong car and its a lot of money to pay on purchase, maintenance, insurance etc.. just to hear something go 'burble'.... :)

So yes, most of my points (especially expired ones) were acquired in cars that took me past the legal limit without blinking. Hence I've slowed down in my old age.

It's good that you can speak for the majority but I'm sure you still break speed limits and each time you do, your licence is at risk, yes? Don't be bitter just because some of us can break them that little bit faster and with a far more satisfying sound track. :D As for additonal costs, thankfully I can afford it and thoroughly enjoy blowing money on things that bring me pleasure without sacrificing life's essentials.

When I'm an oldie driving a slower model variant (because of my poor reaction times and failing eye sight, haha), I look forward to making similar points to yours to any younger folk who will listen. :thumbsup:

Agree with you on the Corsa though but the point was valid...


Muhahaha! I don't speak for anyone but myself..........and don't worry, I'm not bitter. Having a small penis is nothing I could ever get envious about :rofl: Kerblaaam! :evil:
 
The only time I wish I had a 3.0 - is when trying to keep up with the 3.0l owners on a Z4 Forum run. :(
Then I glance at my speedo and realise what crazy speeds I'm driving at on public roads, and come back to more sensible speeds. :roll:

I have to laugh at 3.0l owners, when they brag about 0-60 in 6 secs - I come from a background of motorbikes where 3 secs is the norm. :driving:

p.s. As a pensioner, I have to give a wee bit more thought to the running costs of my motoring enjoyment.
p.p.s. Bradders is right about the reaction times and failing eyesight in my case. :wink:
 
lacroupade said:
Anybody who wants to tell me they buy a 160mph car so they can pootle around within the speed limit trying to get 40mpg is either bonkers or lying - and guess which one I'm going for?

And anybody who tries to experience the full potential of their 160 mph car on public roads in the UK is an eedjit. :x

Take it to a track day, or go play on the Autobahnns. :driving:
 
MalcZ4 said:
And anybody who tries to experience the full potential of their 160 mph car on public roads is an eedjit. :x

Take it to a track day, or go play on the Autobahnns. :driving:
The autobahn is a public road, as is the Nordschliefe.

Both are roads I take mine to "to experience the full potential of my 170mph car on public roads like an eedjit" :poke:
 
mmm-five said:
MalcZ4 said:
And anybody who tries to experience the full potential of their 160 mph car on public roads in the UK is an eedjit. :x

Take it to a track day, or go play on the Autobahnns. :driving:
The autobahn is a public road, as is the Nordschliefe.

Both are roads I take mine to "to experience the full potential of my 170mph car on public roads like an eedjit" :poke:

I've edited my post. :thumbsup:
 
MalcZ4 said:
p.s. As a pensioner, I have to give a wee bit more thought to the running costs of my motoring enjoyment.

Yes I quite agree, I'm on a pension and it's tough isn't it, wishing you could buy life's little luxuries and petrol :wink:
 
I thought of buying a Z4 as I have driven a few and like the way they drive, they look good and I dont need 4 seats any more. Having been on here for a few days, I like the idea even more as I like the banter. Now to decide which to buy and then find one!
 
aquazi said:
imo the 2.0 is more then adequate.... to most people a 2.0 will look identical to a 3.0

This could be an issue though as alot of people see a Z4 and try and race it not knowning it could only be a 2.0i. I always had people trying to bait me into traffic light GP's and the 2.0i will beat most things of the line but there are alot of cars out there now that can shift to 60 in well under 8 seconds.
 
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