Battery replacement, BMW or?

[TitanTim]

I just this week fitted this battery:
https://www.tayna.co.uk/car-batteries/bosch/s4011/
Took the old one out, plonked this one in and Bob's your Uncle!
No coding.

I bought my CTEK charger from Tayna, very efficient and arrived following morning. Plusses of having an older car Unfortunately the battery needs coding on mine otherwise I think they get cooked as the car still thinks it's got the old battery. I imagine BMW would charge a standard hours labour to fit and code a battery so 100 quid or so plus cost of the battery so 3 to 400 quid id imagine

Tim.

 

[Z4C_er]

I just this week fitted this battery:
https://www.tayna.co.uk/car-batteries/bosch/s4011/
Took the old one out, plonked this one in and Bob's your Uncle!
No coding.

I bought my CTEK charger from Tayna, very efficient and arrived following morning. Plusses of having an older car Unfortunately the battery needs coding on mine otherwise I think they get cooked as the car still thinks it's got the old battery. I imagine BMW would charge a standard hours labour to fit and code a battery so 100 quid or so plus cost of the battery so 3 to 400 quid id imagine

Tim.

What do you own? I have an E86, and apparently I don't need coding.

But, I have to say Tayna are great.

 

[ronk]

I imagine BMW would charge a standard hours labour to fit and code a battery so 100 quid or so plus cost of the battery so 3 to 400 quid id imagine

Tim.

When BMW replaced the battery In tge 335 under warranty in late 2017, I was told that the cost to me would have been about £400
I can’t imagine that the price has dropped.

 

[TitanTim]

I just this week fitted this battery:
https://www.tayna.co.uk/car-batteries/bosch/s4011/
Took the old one out, plonked this one in and Bob's your Uncle!
No coding.

I bought my CTEK charger from Tayna, very efficient and arrived following morning. Plusses of having an older car Unfortunately the battery needs coding on mine otherwise I think they get cooked as the car still thinks it's got the old battery. I imagine BMW would charge a standard hours labour to fit and code a battery so 100 quid or so plus cost of the battery so 3 to 400 quid id imagine

Tim.

What do you own? I have an E86, and apparently I don't need coding.

But, I have to say Tayna are great.

Mines a 2016 M140i. I'm unsure when coding was introduced for a new battery but my 2012 Z4 I think needed it but I don't think my old E87s did and my 2001 Z3 didn't as it was just a straightforward swap.

Tim.

 

[TitanTim]

I imagine BMW would charge a standard hours labour to fit and code a battery so 100 quid or so plus cost of the battery so 3 to 400 quid id imagine

Tim.

When BMW replaced the battery In tge 335 under warranty in late 2017, I was told that the cost to me would have been about £400
I can’t imagine that the price has dropped.

Thanks Ron, crazy price really, that's a weekend away in Blackpool

Tim.

 

[ronk]

No thanks! :rofl:

 

[TitanTim]

Well low battery warning hasn't reappeared so all seems good at the moment fingers crossed, all seemed a bit odd. Might just be a coincidence but I've always had a P3 dash gauge plugged into the ODBC port which powers off when the car goes to sleep. I've kept it unplugged the past few days and just wandering if somehow it's been drawing power. I can't see how that's possible once the car shuts down.

Cars booked in on 17th July for its MOT and brake fluid so will see how it goes until then.

Thanks for the replies.

Tim.

 

[B21]

AFAIK OBD port never ever powers off

 

[john-e89]

I put an old MR2 battery in the 35i 4 months ago and no issues....starts on the button after 2 weeks regularly of no use... :driving:

 

[TitanTim]

AFAIK OBD port never ever powers off

Thanks for that, strange as when I switch the engine off the Gauge display powers off, I think it powers off when things like ancillaries/lighter socket/USB/dashcam etc also power off, I didn't realise the ODB port still remains live. I might test it and leave the gauge plugged in again and see if the battery issue reappears. I've had the same gauge plugged in since the car was new in 2016 and never had any issue :?

Tim.

 

[TitanTim]

I put an old MR2 battery in the 35i 4 months ago and no issues....starts on the button after 2 weeks regularly of no use... :driving:

Does the E89 not need codeing for a new battery John? not sure what happens if you put an old battery in. I understand if its a new battery you need tell the car its a new battery so it regulates how its charged otherwise it will think it still has the old battery and increase the charge potentially coooking the new battery shortening its life.

With my old Z3 new battery went in and away you went, no coding nonsense :lol:

Tim.

 

[john-e89]

I put an old MR2 battery in the 35i 4 months ago and no issues....starts on the button after 2 weeks regularly of no use... :driving:

Does the E89 not need codeing for a new battery John? not sure what happens if you put an old battery in. I understand if its a new battery you need tell the car its a new battery so it regulates how its charged otherwise it will think it still has the old battery and increase the charge potentially coooking the new battery shortening its life.

With my old Z3 new battery went in and away you went, no coding nonsense :lol:

Tim.

I don't know tbh Tim....battery failed on the 35i after lack of use, all I had to hand was the MR2 one so I put that in to get it going and not bothered doing anything else since as it works fine.... :lol:

 

[B21]

AFAIK OBD port never ever powers off

Thanks for that, strange as when I switch the engine off the Gauge display powers off, I think it powers off when things like ancillaries/lighter socket/USB/dashcam etc also power off, I didn't realise the ODB port still remains live. I might test it and leave the gauge plugged in again and see if the battery issue reappears. I've had the same gauge plugged in since the car was new in 2016 and never had any issue :?

Tim.

Various circuits go to sleep..so peoples associate switching ignition on to OBD on..not so..

It maybe that not related or maybe related some circuits are not going to sleep when they should..I’ve got a faulty comfort access circuit that’s tending live even with car locked..

 

[B21]

I put an old MR2 battery in the 35i 4 months ago and no issues....starts on the button after 2 weeks regularly of no use... :driving:

Does the E89 not need codeing for a new battery John? not sure what happens if you put an old battery in. I understand if its a new battery you need tell the car its a new battery so it regulates how its charged otherwise it will think it still has the old battery and increase the charge potentially coooking the new battery shortening its life.

With my old Z3 new battery went in and away you went, no coding nonsense :lol:

Tim.

Primary reading for registration and coding..two separate issues is on the one hand far to let ancillary circuits like audio before switching them off to ensure battery start under the worse circumstances and then how hard and to what level to charge the battery especially under regenerative braking..

Of course it will work without coding / registration but you are unlikely to see the 10 year battery lives that the OE battery often shows..when it’s done properly…

 

[ori]

These cars are so sensitive to voltage changes.
Get the right spec battery and just make sure it’s coded properly. I have a Carly dongle that can do it apparently, but I have never done it myself. Can’t be that difficult!

 

[TitanTim]

AFAIK OBD port never ever powers off

Thanks for that, strange as when I switch the engine off the Gauge display powers off, I think it powers off when things like ancillaries/lighter socket/USB/dashcam etc also power off, I didn't realise the ODB port still remains live. I might test it and leave the gauge plugged in again and see if the battery issue reappears. I've had the same gauge plugged in since the car was new in 2016 and never had any issue :?

Tim.

Various circuits go to sleep..so peoples associate switching ignition on to OBD on..not so..

It maybe that not related or maybe related some circuits are not going to sleep when they should..I’ve got a faulty comfort access circuit that’s tending live even with car locked..

Thanks for that, yes I was thinking possibly a faulty module somewhere not shutting down and possibly drawing on the battery but who knows really without looking at any fault codes. I do have comfort access but appears to be working OK. I understand one possible giveaway it's faulty is a warm door handle once the car is locked but unsure if really a give away there is an issue.

Tim.

 

[ronk]

The battery problem has been solved on my 335 Tim

The Techie came out from the BMW breakdown service and plugged his Laptop into the car - It showed that each of the stepper motors on the heating and vent system, there are seven motors, each had 61 faults, and some other bit od witchcraft had 62 faults.
He unplugged the main fan and booked me in at the local dealer an arranged a hire car.
He showed me a "PUMA" BMW speak for documented faults and fixes, which showed chaffed wires. This was the fault and it required partial dashboard and loom removal, then re insulating an re routing.

Apparently four to six hours work - Ive got the warranty plan so only my £250 excess to pay.

They loaned me via Enterprise a well specced 320 D so this years policy has paid dividends.

 

[TitanTim]

The battery problem has been solved on my 335 Tim

The Techie came out from the BMW breakdown service and plugged his Laptop into the car - It showed that each of the stepper motors on the heating and vent system, there are seven motors, each had 61 faults, and some other bit od witchcraft had 62 faults.
He unplugged the main fan and booked me in at the local dealer an arranged a hire car.
He showed me a "PUMA" BMW speak for documented faults and fixes, which showed chaffed wires. This was the fault and it required partial dashboard and loom removal, then re insulating an re routing.

Apparently four to six hours work - Ive got the warranty plan so only my £250 excess to pay.

They loaned me via Enterprise a well specced 320 D so this years policy has paid dividends.

That's good news Ron, glad you've got to the bottom of the problem, its times like these when you think the extended warranty might just be worth it

Wiring seems to be a problem with BMWs over the years, the wiring loom on my Z3 failed where it exited the car into the bootlid and years of opening and closing the boot would fracture the loom. It was known issue and also affected the 3 Series and BMW brought out a repair loom. Think I had the last available loom off BMW when mine failed Alternative fix was to use scotchlocks and patch the broken wires back together.

Not had any further battery issues on the 140i, the car had been in storage for quite a long time so probably didn't like it and threw a paddy

Tim.

 

[Mr Tidy]

£250 excess sounds painful ronk.

Makes me glad my BMWs are both teenagers now!

A new battery for my MC was £104.97 delivered from Tayna in April 21, bolted in and connected in minutes with no coding malarkey required.

 

[ronk]

£250 excess sounds painful ronk.

Makes me glad my BMWs are both teenagers now!

A new battery for my MC was £104.97 delivered from Tayna in April 21, bolted in and connected in minutes with no coding malarkey required.

£422 with £250 excess or £770 with £0 excess so I gambled! This year I lost

I hear what you say about the Battery fitting - I think they call it “progress” :rofl: