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Stratts said:
The 28i has £11k off and the 35is has over £13k off list. Both are (I believe) tied to taking out the finance package

This isn't tied to finance. I haven't taken any out and the discount didn't change whether I did or didn't.
 
Jasey said:
I'm surprised they are still knocking them out at that price - it must be affecting sales higher up the model range.

Not really, it's just inline with the general discounts BMW offer across the range. Some cars get even bigger discounts. I believe you are actually paid to drive a 640d out of the showroom :wink:
 
AndyJ said:
Stratts said:
The 28i has £11k off and the 35is has over £13k off list. Both are (I believe) tied to taking out the finance package

This isn't tied to finance. I haven't taken any out and the discount didn't change whether I did or didn't.

That's good to know. I should be able to get an even better deal then...tempted...
 
Stratts said:
That's good to know. I should be able to get an even better deal then...tempted...

There are a lot of tempting deals out there. One member posted on this forum that he negotiated £14.5k off a 35IS recently from Heathrow BMW. I can't vouch for that as I couldn't get within £1000 of it in November. If you look on Broadspeed they give a good indication of what the latest best deals are.

You know it makes sense :wink:
 
Best quote I got when I was looking to buy middle of last year :)

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Jasey said:
Residuals might be tricky - but that's a few years away :)

If your buying a 18 or 20 then yes but not many 28s and very very little in comparison for the 35is but like everything the price will fall but currently some ex demos are being sold for more than some people can get new for but then new might not be as well spec'd and not all dealers are doing the same deals but they always push deals on the 18 & 20.

Stratts said:
AndyJ said:
Stratts said:
The 28i has £11k off and the 35is has over £13k off list. Both are (I believe) tied to taking out the finance package

This isn't tied to finance. I haven't taken any out and the discount didn't change whether I did or didn't.

That's good to know. I should be able to get an even better deal then...tempted...

If it's already well discounted, the dealers don't have to give anymore. They are not willing to do deals no matter the cost to them. Infact sometimes they give better deals for taking finance i.e. Bmw contribution

You can always try but don't be offended if they say no which I highly suspect they will.
 
Wow, never realised the 35is was that cheap. That was the same as the E85 3.0 and over 10k below the M.
 
pvr said:
Wow, never realised the 35is was that cheap. That was the same as the E85 3.0 and over 10k below the M.

Yep run out model, Sytner got within 1k of broadspeed on mine with almost all options ticked, i had to do finance but Andyj says he didn't and it didn't make any difference to the discount.
 
pvr said:
Wow, never realised the 35is was that cheap. That was the same as the E85 3.0 and over 10k below the M.

Not every dealer is giving the same discounts but in the past year the discount has been around 10-13k sometimes less but if you bought before the discount then you paid the £45,950 base price possibly less with a small discount but options can run well into 10k and apart from the fact that cars like this are not popular options, the price puts people off especially when dealers have been offering 2.0l versions from £270 a month for a couple of years now making it more attractive to people who tend to buy cars on finance and change them frequently.

In a year the number has gone from 196 on the road to 276 on the road with a further 6 sorn so in a year they have sold 86 35is's even with the 'discounts' keeping in mind that a lot of guys on here who have bought have either used broadspeed or taken a broadspeed quote to their dealer to try and get the same deal or as near as possible.

As for a 'Run Out Model' there is still no confirmed end date to either the E89 and the 35is. After this, the next car is expected 2017 but there still hasn't been anything confirmed re this. If it is 2017 that's some 'run out'. The rumour mill started on here because a dealer told someone looking to buy one the production was ending in the June but that's never happened. Possibly told to help convince them to buy.
 
I would be pig sick if I bought one at 45k, for it to be then available at 35k a bit later. That is an awful depreciation curve then.

I thought my discount on my M was pretty good, from 48k to 43. That was available then as they bought so many dealer cars in 2006, that they were still shifting those when I ordered mine in 2007.

Still, 35k for the spec mentioned above - amazing value though and well below the pricing of the competition :thumbsup:
 
Angie4m said:
pvr said:
Wow, never realised the 35is was that cheap. That was the same as the E85 3.0 and over 10k below the M.

Not every dealer is giving the same discounts but in the past year the discount has been around 10-13k sometimes less but if you bought before the discount then you paid the £45,950 base price possibly less with a small discount but options can run well into 10k and apart from the fact that cars like this are not popular options, the price puts people off especially when dealers have been offering 2.0l versions from £270 a month for a couple of years now making it more attractive to people who tend to buy cars on finance and change them frequently.

In a year the number has gone from 196 on the road to 276 on the road with a further 6 sorn so in a year they have sold 86 35is's even with the 'discounts' keeping in mind that a lot of guys on here who have bought have either used broadspeed or taken a broadspeed quote to their dealer to try and get the same deal or as near as possible.

As for a 'Run Out Model' there is still no confirmed end date to either the E89 and the 35is. After this, the next car is expected 2017 but there still hasn't been anything confirmed re this. If it is 2017 that's some 'run out'. The rumour mill started on here because a dealer told someone looking to buy one the production was ending in the June but that's never happened. Possibly told to help convince them to buy.

Personally I can't comment on wether every dealer is giving the same discounts as I hav'nt spoken to them all. I agree the previous pricing on a 35is probably went against it as for a decent specced one you would have really have wanted to have one and I imagine some people went boxster or slk, tt whatever, and as you say for a lot less you could still have an e89 albeit lower engine/spec which was probably good enough for most, but the fact they have now sold 86 35is's in a year shows the discounts are having a positive impact on sales.

While there is no confirmed date for production end, the 3 dealers I spoke to all confirmed it's a run out model no matter how long that takes, which is why I got 14k off, so it's no rumour if 3 dealers are to be believed.
 
pvr said:
I would be pig sick if I bought one at 45k, for it to be then available at 35k a bit later. That is an awful depreciation curve then.

I thought my discount on my M was pretty good, from 48k to 43. That was available then as they bought so many dealer cars in 2006, that they were still shifting those when I ordered mine in 2007.

Still, 35k for the spec mentioned above - amazing value though and well below the pricing of the competition :thumbsup:

Prices second hand for ones ex demo and a year old aren't actually taking that huge a hit. Possibly because people don't know about the discounts as they are not using broker sites and bmw don't advertise it.

With regards to the 'run out model' yes this is now the face lift model and will be he last iteration of the Z4 however if bmw call every facelift model a 'run out' model then I'm surprised they sell cars. The Z4 will more than likely cease production late next year in order to make way for a new car altogether. BMW are offering the discounts because they can't shift the cars, it's the same with Audi and the TT even that can be had with a good chunk of discount even before launch becuase they need the sales.

I suppose the difference is a franchised dealer and not BMW have you that information and as we all know dealers can tell you whatever they want. To call a car facelifited a year ago a run out model is clearly wrong and if people knew that they may think twice about buying it but people are buying because they know there is still a good couple of years left in the current sales/production of the car. Its simple until there is a date to stop production advised by BMW then this is not a 'run out' model. They build to order and could stop the process at anytime. It's not like they've lots of old built stock to shift at he factory. If and when the time comes BMW will advise their dealer network.

I wouldn't be surprised if the rumor mill that started on here from one person only has been metioned to dealers a few times and instead of checking this information out and backing it up with hard facts, they are quoting this as the truth.
 
Angie4m said:
pvr said:
I would be pig sick if I bought one at 45k, for it to be then available at 35k a bit later. That is an awful depreciation curve then.

I thought my discount on my M was pretty good, from 48k to 43. That was available then as they bought so many dealer cars in 2006, that they were still shifting those when I ordered mine in 2007.

Still, 35k for the spec mentioned above - amazing value though and well below the pricing of the competition :thumbsup:

Prices second hand for ones ex demo and a year old aren't actually taking that huge a hit. Possibly because people don't know about the discounts as they are not using broker sites and bmw don't advertise it.

With regards to the 'run out model' yes this is now the face lift model and will be he last iteration of the Z4 however if bmw call every facelift model a 'run out' model then I'm surprised they sell cars. The Z4 will more than likely cease production late next year in order to make way for a new car altogether. BMW are offering the discounts because they can't shift the cars, it's the same with Audi and the TT even that can be had with a good chunk of discount even before launch becuase they need the sales.

I suppose the difference is a franchised dealer and not BMW have you that information and as we all know dealers can tell you whatever they want. To call a car facelifited a year ago a run out model is clearly wrong and if people knew that they may think twice about buying it but people are buying because they know there is still a good couple of years left in the current sales/production of the car. Its simple until there is a date to stop production advised by BMW then this is not a 'run out' model. They build to order and could stop the process at anytime. It's not like they've lots of old built stock to shift at he factory. If and when the time comes BMW will advise their dealer network.

I wouldn't be surprised if the rumor mill that started on here from one person only has been metioned to dealers a few times and instead of checking this information out and backing it up with hard facts, they are quoting this as the truth.

Well that all makes sense tbh and you know more than I do about it, i'm not being sarcastic btw. When I mention if it's a run out model they tell me it is but it's prob just a case of tell me anything and get me to sign the order. Anyway no matter as i'm happy with the deal I got and I take your points. :thumbsup:
 
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