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@MonsterZ4 are you watching your thread. Potential buyer @mckay trying to reach you. Glwts
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Hi folks.
I have seen the messages above, just been busy with work the last few days.
I am about to take a deposit on the car but thank you so much for the interest, I wasn’t expecting it.
Whether I buy an XJS or not, I’ve no idea. I’ve seen an 840ci which I quite fancy if I can convince the better, more sensible half.
Mark
I have seen the messages above, just been busy with work the last few days.
I am about to take a deposit on the car but thank you so much for the interest, I wasn’t expecting it.
Whether I buy an XJS or not, I’ve no idea. I’ve seen an 840ci which I quite fancy if I can convince the better, more sensible half.
Mark
derin100
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I have an 84Ci Sport that I have owned for 20 years as of January just gone. I bought it in 2006 with 25K miles on the clock and it has just clocked 28K miles now.
It’s actually the 4th 840Ci Sport that I’ve owned.
I do really like the look of the XJS, actually much more than the E-Type.
I think there must be similarities between the E31 and the XJS but I can’t say which is ‘better’. What I can say though is that in all the BMWs that I have ever owned (and I have owned over 70 over the last 43 years) none have ever felt so ‘expensively’ built!
During my ownership lots of other cars have come and gone ( including E30 M3, E46 CSL, Mercedes Pagoda, Z4M, Alpina Roadster etc) but I have always sold those (perhaps from a financial standpoint unwisely) but I have always kept the 840Ci Sport!
In comparison with a Z4, you couldn't get more ‘chalk and cheese’! The build quality on the E31 is in a totally different Universe! But, with that, also comes the weight! A single door on an E31 feels like it weighs as much as a whole Z4!
Whilst not exactly ‘slow’, they are also not particularly fast cars…especially getting that weight off the mark. The other thing is, you just don’t feel the speed in them because you’re so well insulated from it. Going from 80-100 mph you feel almost nothing!
The brakes take some getting used to too! Again, you feel as if they’re not going to stop you. But that is just the system it uses. In objective contemporary tests an 840Ci would out brake a Porsche Carrera.
They are not ‘complex’ by modern standards as folklore would have people believe. They were at their launch over 35 years ago. But, realistically, they are not really anymore complex than a contemporary V8 E39 or E38.
That said, they are not ‘cheap’ to own in other respects. Any unique to E31 parts are often expensive and some NLA.
Last year, I was doing a re-commissoning on mine and certain bushes are either NLA or only available from specialist manufacturers. One particular bush and bracket was £600!
That said, the ‘look’ is still breathtaking, IMHO. You can only truly appreciate it in the flesh. It’s the scale an proportions of the car, especially when you see it on the move!
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Amazing. A truly stunning and now getting very rare motor vehicle. Especially In that condition with those low miles.
Wow, at that mileage that’s a proper investment car. Do you think the lack of use has caused it more harm than if it had been used more regularly? There is always an arguement the cars that aren’t used are the troublesome ones.I have an 84Ci Sport that I have owned for 20 years as of January just gone. I bought it in 2006 with 25K miles on the clock and it has just clocked 28K miles now.
It’s actually the 4th 840Ci Sport that I’ve owned.
I do really like the look of the XJS, actually much more than the E-Type.
I think there must be similarities between the E31 and the XJS but I can’t say which is ‘better’. What I can say though is that in all the BMWs that I have ever owned (and I have owned over 70 over the last 43 years) none have ever felt so ‘expensively’ built!
During my ownership lots of other cars have come and gone ( including E30 M3, E46 CSL, Mercedes Pagoda, Z4M, Alpina Roadster etc) but I have always sold those (perhaps from a financial standpoint unwisely) but I have always kept the 840Ci Sport!
In comparison with a Z4, you couldn't get more ‘chalk and cheese’! The build quality on the E31 is in a totally different Universe! But, with that, also comes the weight! A single door on an E31 feels like it weighs as much as a whole Z4!
Whilst not exactly ‘slow’, they are also not particularly fast cars…especially getting that weight off the mark. The other thing is, you just don’t feel the speed in them because you’re so well insulated from it. Going from 80-100 mph you feel almost nothing!
The brakes take some getting used to too! Again, you feel as if they’re not going to stop you. But that is just the system it uses. In objective contemporary tests an 840Ci would out brake a Porsche Carrera.
They are not ‘complex’ by modern standards as folklore would have people believe. They were at their launch over 35 years ago. But, realistically, they are not really anymore complex than a contemporary V8 E39 or E38.
That said, they are not ‘cheap’ to own in other respects. Any unique to E31 parts are often expensive and some NLA.
Last year, I was doing a re-commissoning on mine and certain bushes are either NLA or only available from specialist manufacturers. One particular bush and bracket was £600!
That said, the ‘look’ is still breathtaking, IMHO. You can only truly appreciate it in the flesh. It’s the scale a proportions of the car, especially when you see it on the move!
I’ve no idea what I’ll get next, in reality an 840 is out of my budget and an XJS would probably be one that needs work etc.
Not sure what to do really?
derin100
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Yes. I definitely had bills despite not using it. But ironically, I was thinking about exactly this only 30 minutes ago.
Were the bills truly through lack of use or would they have happened anyway just because of age and if it had been used would there have been more? The answer is actually surprising!
Most of the things that have happened despite not using it very much would indeed have happened simply due to age. I’m currently dealing with the completely non-functioning instrument panel. This is due to an age related capacitor failure in the EKM and is a common problem. Using it probably wouldn’t have influenced that, I wouldn’t have thought?
Last year, I had to replace quite a few disintegrating bushes. They probably would just have worn out, rather than perished if I’d used it. But, the end result would have been the same?
The same goes for the tyres and brakes that I replaced all round last year. The tyres were very old and cracking. The brake discs were pitted but not worn. If I’d driven it, these items would have just worn. But, same result…would have just needed to be replaced either way.
I had to replace both inner and outer camcover gaskets. Again, common but probably would have occurred either way.
The one thing that hasn’t suffered from the low mileage is….the value!
Lots of E31s are still to be found at sub-£20K. Try finding one now at sub-30K miles at all….and then sub-£40K.
It’s a real two-edged sword. A tiny increase in mileage = a big difference in value on these now.
I guess it’s the same with an XJS? I wouldn’t want to own a now tired and knackered E31. That would be a horrible experience!
The three that I had before this (one I actually had at the same time when I bought this one!) all had between 60-75k miles on the clock. When I first got into this one, 20 years ago, to drive it home, the way it felt was instantly palpable! I wouldn’t relish the prospect of a 100K+ miler now a further 20 years on!
Were the bills truly through lack of use or would they have happened anyway just because of age and if it had been used would there have been more? The answer is actually surprising!
Most of the things that have happened despite not using it very much would indeed have happened simply due to age. I’m currently dealing with the completely non-functioning instrument panel. This is due to an age related capacitor failure in the EKM and is a common problem. Using it probably wouldn’t have influenced that, I wouldn’t have thought?
Last year, I had to replace quite a few disintegrating bushes. They probably would just have worn out, rather than perished if I’d used it. But, the end result would have been the same?
The same goes for the tyres and brakes that I replaced all round last year. The tyres were very old and cracking. The brake discs were pitted but not worn. If I’d driven it, these items would have just worn. But, same result…would have just needed to be replaced either way.
I had to replace both inner and outer camcover gaskets. Again, common but probably would have occurred either way.
The one thing that hasn’t suffered from the low mileage is….the value!
Lots of E31s are still to be found at sub-£20K. Try finding one now at sub-30K miles at all….and then sub-£40K.
It’s a real two-edged sword. A tiny increase in mileage = a big difference in value on these now.
I guess it’s the same with an XJS? I wouldn’t want to own a now tired and knackered E31. That would be a horrible experience!
The three that I had before this (one I actually had at the same time when I bought this one!) all had between 60-75k miles on the clock. When I first got into this one, 20 years ago, to drive it home, the way it felt was instantly palpable! I wouldn’t relish the prospect of a 100K+ miler now a further 20 years on!
derin100
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I should have added in answer to your question about not “being sure what to do”, for what they’re worth, my thought are:
Possibly, especially in this country, you might be better off searching for a really good, sound XJS.
Firstly, there’s got to be a vastly bigger choice and hence chance of finding a good one. I think you can still get a really good XJS for the price of a mediocre 840Ci, in the UK anyway….Germany is a completely different story!
Secondly, your support network of specialists in the UK and parts supply has got to be better on the XJS?
Possibly, especially in this country, you might be better off searching for a really good, sound XJS.
Firstly, there’s got to be a vastly bigger choice and hence chance of finding a good one. I think you can still get a really good XJS for the price of a mediocre 840Ci, in the UK anyway….Germany is a completely different story!
Secondly, your support network of specialists in the UK and parts supply has got to be better on the XJS?
derin100
Active member
Further to my above two posts, there currently a very nice looking XJS Convertible with VERY low miles (23k) on a C&C auction ending this evening at around 6pm.
It's currently only bid to £10,500 !
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derin100
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Now up for sale at Zachary Luke with a £4k mark up.
The man was a perfect gent to deal with and I would 100% recommend him.
He told me right from the get-go that he was trade, so I knew there would be a mark up on the car, but that’s business for you.
I wish him all the success.