None of the above. I straight line all the time, as long as there is no solid line on my side and that the road ahead is clear. When I drive, I apply the rule I learned in 1968; A car is at it's most stable driving in a straight line under the influence of controlled acceleration. Progressive driving is great fun on 'B' roads.
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SV8Predator
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As do I. But I bet you've never mentioned it before to anyone. That's the trouble with these "advanced" drivers — they always make sure that everyone knows that they "advanced drivers".
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Feck me that's a mouthful (as the actress said to the Bishop).
So an anorak with a clipboard is now an 'Area Delivery Services Manager'. I blame the lack of steam trains to spot. They call it progress, you know.
Edit: Actually if we want to be pretentious about job titles (which a lot do these days), surely it should be 'Area Services Delivery Manager', as the other makes absolutely no sense, even to the pretentious.
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Oh come on now John, hardly the same is it? In 1968 you had a man with a flag walking in front of you. 'Straightlining' was only because those 28" wooden wheels were not the best at corners!
Well they used to do a chrome badge that you could put on your 'badge bar' to show how superior you are. Now badge bars have gone out of fashion, I suppose the internet is the next best thing.
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You’re correct ..dyslexia rules..Feck me that's a mouthful (as the actress said to the Bishop).
So an anorak with a clipboard is now an 'Area Delivery Services Manager'. I blame the lack of steam trains to spot. They call it progress, you know.
Edit: Actually if we want to be pretentious about job titles (which a lot do these days), surely it should be 'Area Services Delivery Manager', as the other makes absolutely no sense, even to the pretentious.
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Steven Miller will be my examiner..
He was my examiner for my National Observer examination …
Watching him drive was quite something..
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An interesting read. I have a background in the police so avoided the IAM car side of things. I just knew habits gained from breaking numerous rules (when safe to do so) would come into conflict with the current regime. (Particularly off siding) I decided to do the motorcycle route. I passed the IAM advanced with a F1rst, then competed my observers course and am currently doing my masters. I have to say when I was younger it was easier to retain information. The masters is quite an effort to get the consistency and to the standard required. Currently I am at the review stage for my masters final ride. So respect to anyone going through it.
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Thanks for your input…
My brain know all the theory but unlearning some acquired habits like trail braking is proving difficult..
Driving the cars in manual mode I think is going to help a lot.
Our chief instructor here failed his motorcycle masters with one single error..subsequently passed..
The car chief instructor failed to get a distinction…despite a F1rst at Advanced level..
Good luck with the test ..pm when you’ve done it!
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Are you OK, hun?
So session 3 out of a pre-booked 6
After a lot of reflecting on the issues, a lot of practice and the adoption of using primarily manual mode on the auto box things are starting to come together….
Feeling a lot happier..with 3 more sessions before test I’m much more confident of passing…getting a distinction remains a distant dream..
Hard to explain exactly what’s needed / expected but it’s more akin to race circuit style albeit slower with much more conscious effort on position and throttle ..not because you need to but because you can…heh ho
After a lot of reflecting on the issues, a lot of practice and the adoption of using primarily manual mode on the auto box things are starting to come together….
Feeling a lot happier..with 3 more sessions before test I’m much more confident of passing…getting a distinction remains a distant dream..
Hard to explain exactly what’s needed / expected but it’s more akin to race circuit style albeit slower with much more conscious effort on position and throttle ..not because you need to but because you can…heh ho
I look on all these type of 'training' things like any other......
If you pays your money you WILL get the certificate, no matter whether you are good, bad, or ugly.
I will wager by the time it comes to 6/6 you will miraculously get '1' on everything and pass with flying colours so the cheque will not have to be refunded.
I know.....cynical bastard ain't I? It is based on many years of watching others do paid 'training' and pass no matter how clueless they are. The UK in the 21st Century.
Psychologists muse as to whether cynical and / or suspicious approaches to others are based on nature or nuture..I couldn't possibly comment!-
I would agree having attended dozens of courses run by for profit organisations that merely paying for a course leads pretty easily to an 'award'
However when it comes to ROSPA and AIM as a student of both I can categorically say that is not the case.
On the ROSPA test day the examiner who was a former Class I trainer and examiner, assessed me for over 2 hours in what was my most challenging and extensive test I've ever done for any exam.
A colleague of ours struggled on the day and received a bronze level pass despite being a long time member of said ROSPA sub group.
Now as a tutor / trainer with IAM I can assure you that nothing could be further from the truth.
Personally I've had one student dismiss himself for non performance and another who failed on test as we suspected he would do despite 2 tutors, 9 lessons and over 20 hours of training.
IAM for sure and I suspect similarly ROSPA isolate the training from the assessment.
The examiner on the day who is always Class ! examiner / trainer level has NO knowledge of the candidate and has to assess the performance of the student on the day in isolation.
Obviously we don't put people forward unless we think they are going to pass (except our student were we had just run out of time and patience as he was not improving at all come what may)..however there's no guarantee especially when it comes to grading.
The fact that we as tutors are additionally trained on grading and assessment to ensure standardisation across the whole country speaks to the fact that its not that simple to pass!
I've now a few dozen 'senior assessment' drives and a few young and senior folks on the whole program..and I can say that there is no bias to awarding a grade to anyone if they don't merit it.
The fact that the run sheets show improvement over time for most is the reality of skills based training..you discuss, you are shown, you demonstrate, you're critiqued and then you repeat and repeat till you reach a minimum standard.
If you want to reach the higher standard (ROSPA advanced driver Gold, IAM advanced driver F1st. IAM Masters Distinction) then you have to work really hard.
Of course much depends on physical and cognitive skills, aptitude and relevant experience, plus how willing and hard and how much effort you put into it.
It goes without saying that a primary starting point is self assessment and awareness of one's current limitations!
Just to be clear Peter, I wasn't having a pop at you. I re-read my post and can see it could be construed that way. I am just not a fan of 'training' but can appreciate this is not the normal type.
Good on you for doing all this. I am 12 years younger than you and I couldn't do it (anymore).
Good on you for doing all this. I am 12 years younger than you and I couldn't do it (anymore).