Z450 said:I think it seems worse than it is, due to how over inflated car prices beocme during Covid. The reality is most cars don’t appreciate, we had a short spell when they did. I think it’s hard for those who bought at the peak and are now selling!
simnew said:I certainly wouldn’t go by prices from WBAC…. Those are low to start with.
B21 said:ibroker said:The 35is are standing up relatively well. Late nice ones can push £22.5 which i think is ok.
WBAC 2011 35is 80k £5k
You're right and I was wrong. I had no idea that Autumn in the UK lasts near as damn it until Christmas.Beerman said:Apart from not ... knowing the seasons of the year, your argument is holding up well.
There are 376 examples of the 35is still registered, with a few more SORN. Unless you really wanted the 35is, you'd surely be better to buy a 35i and chuck a map on it? Downside is that there aren't loads of MSport 35i models either. There look to be about 1,000 35i/is examples of all variations currently registered.Busterboo said:For me, the problem is not price, but car: the 35iS. I believe that only 450 were exported to the UK and finding a low-mileage one now is difficult.
Just as bad is finding an alternative. I nearly bought an M4 Convertible Competition Package with 5k miles on the clock and may still, but it's not really what I what.
DaveP said:There are 376 examples of the 35is still registered, with a few more SORN. Unless you really wanted the 35is, you'd surely be better to buy a 35i and chuck a map on it? Downside is that there aren't loads of MSport 35i models either. There look to be about 1,000 35i/is examples of all variations currently registered.Busterboo said:For me, the problem is not price, but car: the 35iS. I believe that only 450 were exported to the UK and finding a low-mileage one now is difficult.
Just as bad is finding an alternative. I nearly bought an M4 Convertible Competition Package with 5k miles on the clock and may still, but it's not really what I what.
https://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/bmw_z4_sdrive35is_auto
It really is a bit of a waiting game, as someone who's in the market for at 35i/is. It's the same story as the E85 - so many small-engined examples were made, that the 35s tend not to be particularly well known or thought of.
I'm also going to look at an M4 convertible at a dealer near me, but my preference would be an E89. M4s are ten-a-penny, and people seem to own them a couple of years before moving them on. Whereas I suspect that folk with 35i/is models tend to hang onto them a bit longer. No data to back that up, just a hunch.
DaveP said:My frustration with looking for a 35i/is over the past few months is how few cars seem to fall into the sweet spot of the middle ground.
I could have my pick of early 'SE' spec cars with low mileage at £10k, or high miler M-Sports at £11-12k. Plenty of low-miler later cars sitting unsold at silly money too (£16k+).
There seems to be very little in that sweet spot in the middle. An M-Sport with 70k or so should be around ~£13k give or take, but they just don't seem to be getting sold.
I'd consider one in that neck of the woods at the right price (i.e. leaving me enough to fix the big ticket N54 issues), but there seem to be a lot of dreamers selling 35s right now given the length the Autotrader ads have been up.B21 said:DaveP said:My frustration with looking for a 35i/is over the past few months is how few cars seem to fall into the sweet spot of the middle ground.
I could have my pick of early 'SE' spec cars with low mileage at £10k, or high miler M-Sports at £11-12k. Plenty of low-miler later cars sitting unsold at silly money too (£16k+).
There seems to be very little in that sweet spot in the middle. An M-Sport with 70k or so should be around ~£13k give or take, but they just don't seem to be getting sold.
I think there's a bit of emotion of cars in the 70k-100k area..given the wide variation of when things fail on the N55 E89s it seems people are adverse to embracing that mileage segment..
Surprised at how many poorly spec N54 there are..
DaveP said:I'd consider one in that neck of the woods at the right price (i.e. leaving me enough to fix the big ticket N54 issues), but there seem to be a lot of dreamers selling 35s right now given the length the Autotrader ads have been up.B21 said:DaveP said:My frustration with looking for a 35i/is over the past few months is how few cars seem to fall into the sweet spot of the middle ground.
I could have my pick of early 'SE' spec cars with low mileage at £10k, or high miler M-Sports at £11-12k. Plenty of low-miler later cars sitting unsold at silly money too (£16k+).
There seems to be very little in that sweet spot in the middle. An M-Sport with 70k or so should be around ~£13k give or take, but they just don't seem to be getting sold.
I think there's a bit of emotion of cars in the 70k-100k area..given the wide variation of when things fail on the N55 E89s it seems people are adverse to embracing that mileage segment..
Surprised at how many poorly spec N54 there are..
Almost all that are coming up in my saved search (under £18k, under 80k miles) have been advertised since before October last year, with no movement in price.
That seems to be a common issue with these type of cars. Many, many are 'fun' cars, not dailies. So therefore most will have been bought with cash as a frivolous toy. Therefore, people wishing to sell are not in any hurry as there is no financial pressure on the sale.DaveP said:Almost all that are coming up in my saved search (under £18k, under 80k miles) have been advertised since before October last year, with no movement in price.
That first one is actually an auction on a third-party auction site. I reckon it should probably go for a smidge over £10k, but not by much.Gwest44 said:There are 2 35is' that have recently been listed on Autorader at what seems like sensible money - the one that's just tipped 100k is the first sub £10k example I've seen and the ither is the cheapest valencia example I've ever seen.
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