What Missing Comforts Would Be Deal Breakers ?

AnubisZed · Post by **AnubisZed** » Wed Sep 20, 2023 10:20 pm

Gwest44 wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 9:08 pm Not had one yet with the heated steering wheel - I'd be scared they'd render my driving gloves pointless

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MikeyH · Post by **MikeyH** » Wed Sep 20, 2023 11:43 pm

Gwest44 wrote: Wed Sep 20, 2023 9:08 pm For me less is more it's why I love my Z3 - manual roof and no heated seats or SatNav. Always makes me laugh that unlike the E85, E86 & E89 it does have a spare tyre and electric seats were standard on all models.

On the E85's & E89's I've had I do like the folding exterior mirrors and think bluetooth music capability is a must - SatNav is always a big no-no for me and let's be honest the cup holder's are always pointless.

Not had one yet with the heated steering wheel - I'd be scared they'd render my driving gloves pointless

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‘Cup holders pointless’ as far as my wife’s concerned it’s one of the best things about my car

Gwest44 · Post by **Gwest44** » Thu Sep 21, 2023 6:55 am

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‘Cup holders pointless’ as far as my wife’s concerned it’s one of the best things about my car

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The big question is do you both have a pair of matching driving gloves?

MikeyH · Post by **MikeyH** » Thu Sep 21, 2023 9:21 am

Gwest44 wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2023 6:55 am

‘Cup holders pointless’ as far as my wife’s concerned it’s one of the best things about my car

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The big question is do you both have a pair of matching driving gloves?

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No unfortunately we don’t but Christmas is just around the corner

javis20 · Post by **javis20** » Fri Sep 22, 2023 1:42 am

Sport seats and air conditioning.

mcbutler · Post by **mcbutler** » Fri Sep 22, 2023 3:02 pm

Marcoose wrote: Mon Sep 18, 2023 6:02 pm It's a pet hate of mine. BMWs have loads of these comforts that in my opinion don't improve the drive of the 'ultimate driving machine'. And when they breakdown, and breakdown they do, it's a PITA and expensive to repair. For example, the electronic boot release and close mechanisms. Just the other day there was a bloke on the US site that couldn't open his boot. Even with the key. He finally figured it out with the help from the community. But blame electronic comforts.

But BMWs, especially the E89, are marketed as luxurious vehicles. They must have bling and comforts. It comes with the territory.

So what missing comforts would be a deal breakers for you, that would make you look at Audi, Merc, Lexus, Jag, etc ?

OK, I would not buy a car without aircon. But fancy self-adjustable seats don't make a difference to me.

heated steering wheel, electric seats with heat and lumbar, auto headlight dip, i drive

N4LLY · Post by **N4LLY** » Fri Sep 22, 2023 3:23 pm

My deal breaker would have been "with" Idrive.

Took we 4 month's to find the right car colour, milage, service etc.

Just so happended to come with...

Start/stop

(Figured out how to disable)
Heated steering wheel
Heated seats
M/F Steering wheel
TPMS
M sport package
Wind deflector
Extended Storage package (Inc Ski hatch)
Extended Lights package
M aerodynamics package
Headlight WashersI
Interior and exterior Mirror package with auto dim.
Smokers package
Rain sensor
Auto air con
Cruise control with braking function
PDC front and rear
Cup holders ( In the arm rest, have dumb is that)

All a bonus with out the idrive

IMHO

N4LLY · Post by **N4LLY** » Fri Sep 22, 2023 3:25 pm

Oh and Manual gear box

N4LLY · Post by **N4LLY** » Fri Sep 22, 2023 3:40 pm

ronk wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 1:51 pm
Chippie wrote: Tue Sep 19, 2023 8:18 am
Marcoose wrote: Mon Sep 18, 2023 9:47 pm So many replies about air conditioning being a 'must'. They are convertibles! What is wrong with you lot?
On a sunny day when you’re sat in Traffic in temperatures over 25*c it’s nice to have cold air blowing over you.
Definitely a deal breaker for me.
I’ve been in SW Germany when temperatures have gone silly high and the ability to close the roof and fill the cabin with chilled air is a god send!

Totally this ^^^^

I got stuck at the Dartford tunnel a few weeks ago when temps were nudging 30c
Roof up and A/C on max saved my face from melting

Marcoose · Post by **Marcoose** » Fri Sep 22, 2023 6:52 pm

N4LLY wrote: Fri Sep 22, 2023 3:23 pm My deal breaker would have been "with" Idrive.

How so ?

N4LLY · Post by **N4LLY** » Sat Sep 23, 2023 9:36 am

I do not use sat nav and do not like the intrusive/ distractions

A Tesla for example is my ultimate nightmare having travelled a couple hundred miles
in a friends one and nearly threw up as it made me so dizzy with images of cars, vans and traffic cones passing by.

Silverstar · Post by **Silverstar** » Sat Sep 23, 2023 2:22 pm

N4LLY wrote: Sat Sep 23, 2023 9:36 am I do not use sat nav and do not like the intrusive/ distractions
A Tesla for example is my ultimate nightmare having travelled a couple hundred miles
in a friends one and nearly threw up as it made me so dizzy with images of cars, vans and traffic cones passing by.

You know if you prefer you can just drive with the idrive screen folded. Always a benefit to have it then not to have it.

N4LLY · Post by **N4LLY** » Sat Sep 23, 2023 3:04 pm

Silverstar wrote: Sat Sep 23, 2023 2:22 pm
N4LLY wrote: Sat Sep 23, 2023 9:36 am I do not use sat nav and do not like the intrusive/ distractions
A Tesla for example is my ultimate nightmare having travelled a couple hundred miles
in a friends one and nearly threw up as it made me so dizzy with images of cars, vans and traffic cones passing by.
You know if you prefer you can just drive with the idrive screen folded.

Yes i know

Loss of storage space, where to put parking tickets

My jacket sleeve hits the traction control button as it is

Marcoose · Post by **Marcoose** » Sat Sep 23, 2023 4:49 pm

I wonder how many 35is original owners ordered them without iDrive (and other silly gizmos). I reckon that at that level they came as loaded as possible. Though during my search, there were many 35is's without winter package. I also wonder how many options were mutually exclusive. For example, and I don't know if this is true, if you wanted premium speakers or TPMS, you had to get iDrive.

Since we're talking iDrive, isn't iDrive more than just SatNav ?

B21 · Post by **B21** » Sat Sep 23, 2023 5:07 pm

In the UK quite a few 35is came without iDrive, especially early ones..iDrive makes access to many functions, error messages, system functions easier than without it..not sure how 677 Top-Fi equaliser function could be done without iDrive but I guess if you are patient enough then it can be accessed via the radio clunky interface..

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