Z4MR losing it at the Ring
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Yep posted & discussed previously , clearly that rear spoiler was lacking performance 
along with the driver :roll: totally not realising he had another bend to steer around :roll: guess that's gonna happen when folks stick a helmet + gloves on then assume they are Jason Plato 
along with the driver :roll: totally not realising he had another bend to steer around :roll: guess that's gonna happen when folks stick a helmet + gloves on then assume they are Jason Plato His mistake was trying to power through the gravel to get back on track instead of coming off the gas and slamming on the brakes. Once he was out of the gravel he was just a passenger.
His biggest mistake was that big red bellend-looking helmet tho!
wtaf?
Ambulance, recovery, temporary track closure, cleanup, armco replacement and buggering up his M.
Hope he had good insurance.
His biggest mistake was that big red bellend-looking helmet tho!
wtaf?
Ambulance, recovery, temporary track closure, cleanup, armco replacement and buggering up his M.
Hope he had good insurance.
British car, wonder if he wants to sell those 224’s 
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Such a negative forum this has turned into.
Everyone here has driven that bend then?
Up hill right hander over a crest, go and have a go and see what you think of the visibility.
I feel sorry for the guy, its an easy one to get wrong, I hope he gets it fixed and back in the road at some point
Everyone here has driven that bend then?
Up hill right hander over a crest, go and have a go and see what you think of the visibility.
I feel sorry for the guy, its an easy one to get wrong, I hope he gets it fixed and back in the road at some point
as you say red, never been, never will, but.. opinions are like arseholes
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So what’s the deal there, then? Seems to be the site of a lot of tourist crashes. People go too fast down the hill, take the apex a bit early and then understeer out of it? It certainly looks like he’s scrubbing the front tyres a long time before he gets to the run-off area and could have maybe let a little lock out instead of panicking.
Either way, pretty grim viewing. Especially since those little triangular spoiler things survived.
RedUn said:Such a negative forum this has turned into.
Everyone here has driven that bend then?
Up hill right hander over a crest, go and have a go and see what you think of the visibility.
I feel sorry for the guy, its an easy one to get wrong, I hope he gets it fixed and back in the road at some point
So what’s the deal there, then? Seems to be the site of a lot of tourist crashes. People go too fast down the hill, take the apex a bit early and then understeer out of it? It certainly looks like he’s scrubbing the front tyres a long time before he gets to the run-off area and could have maybe let a little lock out instead of panicking.
Either way, pretty grim viewing. Especially since those little triangular spoiler things survived.
Chris_D said:His mistake was trying to power through the gravel to get back on track instead of coming off the gas and slamming on the brakes. Once he was out of the gravel he was just a passenger.
His biggest mistake was that big red bellend-looking helmet tho!
wtaf?
Ambulance, recovery, temporary track closure, cleanup, armco replacement and buggering up his M.
Hope he had good insurance.
Colour coding innit :lol: :lol: :lol: what a knob
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It's the tourist-friendly corner known affectionately as 'Crünnchen' (real name Brünnchen) - as there are usually plenty of crashes there.MrPT said:
The trouble with the corner is that it punishes drivers who turn in too early, or too tightly, as the camber disappears just after the apex, so anyone still turning will start to understeer towards the (now wider) run-off concrete, and if they don't gather it up by then they're into the gravel.
The other dangerous bit there is when someone's spilt oil/fluid, as you don't realise you've got no grip until just the wrong moment.
Something like this will show how the corner camber flattens out and why going in too tight will throw you out (not exactly a perfect drawing, but you'll get the point).
I also think some people panic when the see they're going a bit wide (which can easily happen if you're overtaking/being overtaken at just the 'wrong' point on the track). If you try to close the steering to drag yourself out of the understeer, then you'll simply induce more understeer that will bit once you get some grip back - and you'll have instant oversteer. It's much better to lift off slightly and open the steering to gain a bit of grip - and in most cases this is enough for you to keep away from the kerb.
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I bet you something popped out his ring!
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Interesting, thanks. Yes, understeer not oversteer, of course. No doubt compounded by going uphill as well as the camber flattening out.
It sounds like a recipe for disaster, especially if people don’t do their homework and/or get caught up on the moment! The concrete looks like a horrible surface on which to try and gather it up again. Makes you wonder whether they’d be better off with a marshalled sausage kerb and tarmac run-off.
Still want to go though.
