Z4 M vs V8 Vantage

taffy said:
AMv8 is nice but it's not a DB9 and if you can't afford the DB9...

...but personally I prefer the smaller, sharper looks of the AMV8? Especially for the price. You could of course buy an older DB9 for similar money, but then you have the warranty issue. I would need to drive the AM really and see what its like. Its alot of cash to spend if the car is dull to drive, no matter how hot it looks. Though I can't imagine it is with that engine note.

A 911 just seems a bit boring, despite being an awesome car. A bit like the Cayman - I respect it and probably would not kick it out of bed, but don't really want one
 
I'm with mikedav. I'd choose the AMV8 over the DB9 (although not over the DBS), and i'm really not fussed on any Porsche. Seems crazy branding such apparently accomplished performance cars as 'a bit dull', but that's exactly how they seem. The Boxster looks ugly to me, the Cayman is slightly better if you get a set of larger (19"?) wheels on them but still 'unbalanced' and same-again in appearance, and the 911 trades some of the ugly for some more boring. I'd always had a nagging suspicion that if I ever drove a Porsche, i'd fall in love with the near-perfect driving abilities, but having said that, my last car was a Prodrive-tuned (suspension) RX-8 PZ - a car lauded for it's dynamics even in non-PZ guise, and it left me very cold... Not a particularly good ownership experience at all. For that reason, and my love of the Dodge Viper (a current-shape coupe in red of blue with the stripes would be just fine, with the chrome wheels, thanks :thumbsup: ), I'm pretty sure I just do prefer the feel of something more meaty, involved, and perhaps a bit of a handful. Part of what put me off the RX-8 was its driving position: it was far too high even at it's lowest. In a sports car, I want to be able to go so low that I can't see over the dash and then push myself up to a sensible position while still feeling like i'm truly sitting in the car, rather than on it. The Z4MC does just that, whereas (from what I read/hear), the Cayman doesn't. Everything else is just what you expect/want from a musclecar-in-sportscar-clothing, too: small, massively chunky wheel with heavy steering, and a gearbox that requires proper firm shoves. It should be massively involving, and my Z4MC delivers. Only point of focus for me is the understeer, and it seems there's loads of ways to counter that: strut brace, Michellin's, tyre pressures (higher at the front - still amazes me, that), camber (mostly at the front - that's more understandable to me), rollbars...
 
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