Z4 2.2 bidders queries

I would not be too put off by the mileage, my 2.2 04 roadster has 123K and it runs perfect, performance and economy is fine.
Recent expenditure has been on rear discs/pads, air bag warning light problem, coolant system header tank, replacement drive belts and a couple of tyres.
The issue of a dirty interior, engine bay not a massive deterrent providing no serious damage to leather, trim parts etc
Without seeing it my thoughts were around the £3k, any more and a full independent inspection would be on the list.
 
GreyZed said:
paddy wright said:
GreyZed said:
If your Z3 was a 2.2 you will be disappointed with the 2.2 Z4. There are loads of early Z4s around between £4k and £6k depending on spec mileage and condition (mainly mileage and condition). Take your time and you will find the right one (maybe a 3.0!) The very fact that you are seeking reassurance on this one suggests that it may not be the one for you. You will know instinctively when you you see the 'one'.

Good luck with the search. :thumbsup:
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How would he be disappointed? They are the same engine! My dad has a z3 2.2 and it feels as grunty as my z4.
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That is my point. The 2.2 Z3 has more grunt than the 2.2 Z4! I moved from a 2.2 Z3 and found test drives in 2.2 and even 2.5 Z4s to be a little disappointing in the power stakes. The Z4 is a totally different car though being bigger more refined more comfortable, quieter and closer to the GT end of the scale than the Z3. I liked my Z3 a lot and I believe it was a more engaging drive than my Z4 with a little more of the go-kart feel in the corners but as I say two totally different cars imo both with their individual advantages and disadvantages. 8)
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To me they felt the same ut the z3 is actually on paper slower- half a second to 60 slower and slightly lower bhp.
 
I've never seen a bit of paper that states a 2.2 engined Z4 is half a second quicker 0-60 than a 2.2 Z3.

I thought the Z3 had 170 horses in 2.2 form but when the Z4 came along the 2.2 powerplant lost a few horses and as it was transplanted into a bigger heavier car this meant a performance hit over the similar engined Z3.

Half a second over 0-60 is a lot to squeeze out of any engine especially in a heavier car and I don't think BMW managed it.
 
http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/reviews/facts-and-figures/bmw/z3/roadster-1996/

Z3 stats- the z4 is 177bhp and 7.7 to 60. :thumbsup:
 
Thanks for your replies chaps. Before I even read these I had tested driven a 2.5 Auto yesterday, much better, so this 2.2 wreck is getting the cold shoulder from me. It would be a bargain, but I wouldnt pay more than 3K for it, its a heap and needs a lot of work (i.e. both headlight interiors are manky = two new headlights.)
Im still tempted to go 3.0 as I just sold my XKR and will be needing the power for those safe overtaking manouvres :evil:
 
Stuart Truman said:
indizee said:
Im still tempted to go 3.0 as I just sold my XKR and will be needing the power for those safe overtaking manouvres :evil:
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Keep thinking those thoughts and go drive an M :evil:
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The thoughts soon go away when the wife keeps asking me if she will be allowed to drive it. :x

Im pretty certain a 3.0 is the only way to go. The 2.5 I drove the other day was an Auto, very nice drive, but still not got the grunt for overtaking. I was quite surprised at how hard it had to be pushed to do anything. My 2.8 Z3 was brilliant, hit the gas and it was gone. Im still thinking of going back to Z3. But my issues were no Aircon in most Z3s and the wind noise on the roof was doing my head in, and the seats where rock hard and uncomfortable. The Z4 is much more refined, comfy, but a bit of a fat lump. :?
 
srhutch said:
Stark's engine by nearly looks that, not that you would guess from the exterior.

Some people don't open the bonnet between servicing and certainly would not consider washing it.
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I hardly open my engine bay... Maybe 3-4 times in 4 years, once to check how to fit my strut brace!! And only cleaned it once!

I've never needed to top up oil/ fluid outside a service so no need to open/ clean it.


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indizee said:
Stuart Truman said:
indizee said:
Im still tempted to go 3.0 as I just sold my XKR and will be needing the power for those safe overtaking manouvres :evil:
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Keep thinking those thoughts and go drive an M :evil:
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The thoughts soon go away when the wife keeps asking me if she will be allowed to drive it. :x

Im pretty certain a 3.0 is the only way to go. The 2.5 I drove the other day was an Auto, very nice drive, but still not got the grunt for overtaking. I was quite surprised at how hard it had to be pushed to do anything. My 2.8 Z3 was brilliant, hit the gas and it was gone. Im still thinking of going back to Z3. But my issues were no Aircon in most Z3s and the wind noise on the roof was doing my head in, and the seats where rock hard and uncomfortable. The Z4 is much more refined, comfy, but a bit of a fat lump. :?
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I agree completely having come from a Z3. The Z4 is a different car but deffo bigger, quieter, comfier and more of a fat lump muscle car/GT cruiser feel to it.

If you can stretch to 3.0 then you must go for it. After all a 3 litre is just like the 2.5 or 2.2 except you have more power in reserve for when you need it! The 2.5 will be plenty for overtaking most things though. I found the Z4's even power delivery difficult to get used to at first as the torque and power curves are very smooth and not peaky at all. So in effect they feel somewhat slower than they are! Trust me if you plant your foot to the carpet away from the lights you may not feel like you are being brutally pinned into your seat but just glance in the rear view mirror and see how far away the rest of the pack are!

Many on here will tell you that you must get a manual as autos are not sports cars. A few years ago I would probably have said the same but I have found the 3.0 auto is a great drive so effortless and if you have cruise even better. The 3.0 auto pre-facelift is 231bhp and 6 secs 0-60 against the manual's 5.7 secs but in an auto you never stall or fluff a gear change. :D

Whatever you end up with I'm sure you'll love it. :thumbsup:
 
Agree with previous post, having swapped from a Z3 early this year, main reason being the Z4 is a lot smoother, quieter and easier to drive for my other half!
Being a 2.2 has its limitations, the main one being only 5 gears. Still get a kick out of it though, being one of the older members (age not length of service!)
 
Buyers check list link in my signature which you may find useful. :)

Anyone that runs near bald tyres doesn't take care of their vehicle - for me I would walk away unless its ridiculously cheap.
 
Yes GreyZed, Auto is the way to go. I had my XKR for 3 years and cant be going all manual, too much effort.... :D And my Z3 was a bit of a beefy go-cart, but loved the runouts with Pistonheads :evil:

Bald tyres, they were very close to the wear indicator s. I wouldnt let me wife drive on them let alone a pregnant woman.....yes, the sellers wife is pregnant, and its her Zed...go figure.

Im off to look at this at the weekend.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2003-BMW-Z4-3-0I-SE-AUTO-RED-/321208769269?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item4ac988daf5

But concerned that the headlight module problem is going to be an expensive fix. Im looking at the cost of replacing two headlights when haggling. Im certainly not paying the asking price. The hunt goes on. (3.0, getting close 8) )
 
Looks like a way better car. Asking price looks good.
Def. not a headlight unit issue. Most likely the LCM which needs to be the correct one of many variants. Needs coding to the car as it also holds mileage and other data and if just swapped can show the car as clocked once driven a few miles (20 iirc)
 
CJ, are you saying the LCM ?- Light Control Module needs to be coded via a BMW garage. LCM is i think around £100 and coding will be labour only.

So it sounds like its a couple of hundered quids worth of work maybe. Ill know more at the weekend when I go up to see it.

Yes, it's quite nice, 3.0L, cream leather and nice colour....a bit different from the norm :thumbsup:
 
This car has an intermittent fault on the headlights and the fog lights? Is this controlled from the same module for all the front lights? Im just wandering how much that would cost to repair. I dont want to lose my lights at night.
 
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