Toyo r888
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BMWZ4MC said:
Fair point, i'm a useless mug.
This seems like the sort of weather one might find in the highlands in the last month or two, and didn't go so well for the summer tyres, despite being a 4wd vehicle:
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note: you would safely assume summer tyres might beat slicks in this situation, thus imagine the 4wd car had mcdonalds trays for tyres and you get the idea
EDIT: oh look i found a reasonably useful video here - this guy makes video reviews of tyres, perhaps he has some experience, and here's him comparing track tyres to summer tyres:
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The video with the M3 is pretty impressive 
I agree with most of what the Tyre Review guy said, except I wouldn’t use semi slicks rountinely in the winter, even for a weekend only car. He justifies it by saying that he has electronic aids, but I would hate having the traction control kick in all the time even when driving modestly. I’ve left semi slicks on my Zed when I haven’t had an opportunity to swap back to my normal road wheels after a track day and it makes for a exciting experience on a cold, wet roundabout with DSC off and and an irritating journey with it on.
I agree with most of what the Tyre Review guy said, except I wouldn’t use semi slicks rountinely in the winter, even for a weekend only car. He justifies it by saying that he has electronic aids, but I would hate having the traction control kick in all the time even when driving modestly. I’ve left semi slicks on my Zed when I haven’t had an opportunity to swap back to my normal road wheels after a track day and it makes for a exciting experience on a cold, wet roundabout with DSC off and and an irritating journey with it on.
At no point did I say I was a driving god, far from it. OP asked about trackday tyres for a weekend car. Having used trackday tyres on daily drivers since 2013 I felt I could comment. For weekend use I personally don’t see an issue at all, if it rains - moderate your driving. If it’s horrendous, don’t go out in the weekend car?! Water on road doesn’t just instantly throw you off the road!
Not sure I see the correlation between the car being for weekend use and mention of wet/ice driving. If it’s really that bad, maybe just don’t go out if it’s a weekend car?
Anyway I just survived a journey on a cold wintery evening with grit on the roads using Pirelli Corsa’s. Better thank god im still here! Obviously alone here so I’ll let myself out the door!
Mike. said:
At no point did I say I was a driving god, far from it. OP asked about trackday tyres for a weekend car. Having used trackday tyres on daily drivers since 2013 I felt I could comment. For weekend use I personally don’t see an issue at all, if it rains - moderate your driving. If it’s horrendous, don’t go out in the weekend car?! Water on road doesn’t just instantly throw you off the road!
Not sure I see the correlation between the car being for weekend use and mention of wet/ice driving. If it’s really that bad, maybe just don’t go out if it’s a weekend car?
Anyway I just survived a journey on a cold wintery evening with grit on the roads using Pirelli Corsa’s. Better thank god im still here! Obviously alone here so I’ll let myself out the door!
Appreciate what you're saying, i guess it depends on how you define fun
I'd argue if it's raining or not ideal on a weekend it would potentially ruin your opportunity to get out and drive (wheras with a decent summer tyre you could at least entertain it, i take mine out all winter on p-zeros, plenty of fun to be had and less precarious), as you'd have to nurse it everywhere.i guess you can take all corners very carefully and just enjoy straight line blats hoping for no standing water or sudden braking required - living on the edge kinda fun
Liverpool
I’ve had friends drive to and back from the Ring in all weathers, and one insists on ‘proper rubber’ for his GT3.
Most of the time this works out fine, and we have fun on the roads there & back too, but one year (in a nice warm August), and after him blasting past wherever he could all weekend (autoroute, b-roads, autobahn, track), we arrived back in the UK to a wet Dover.
He never took it above 50mph for the first 20 miles (which pissed off some truckers on the M20j as he was sliding around everywhere on his part worn Cups.
...yes, we did leave him to make his own way back north. I believe it took him as long to get back to Oxford as it took me to get to Liverpool.
I’m not saying the tyres were crap, but he just didn’t have confidence in them to risk his GT3.
I’ve not used ‘proper’ track rubber since I used P-Zero Cora’s, Toyo R888, and Silverstone S585 tyres on my M5s. The Supersports are nowhere near their level of grip, but they also last longer than a day on track (in an M5). I’d drive to the track with a set of track wheels on the back seat - stopped doing so as I can’t do that in the Z4, and I can’t say I’ve really missed the extra grip (with its extra wear on everything).
Most of the time this works out fine, and we have fun on the roads there & back too, but one year (in a nice warm August), and after him blasting past wherever he could all weekend (autoroute, b-roads, autobahn, track), we arrived back in the UK to a wet Dover.
He never took it above 50mph for the first 20 miles (which pissed off some truckers on the M20j as he was sliding around everywhere on his part worn Cups.
...yes, we did leave him to make his own way back north. I believe it took him as long to get back to Oxford as it took me to get to Liverpool.
I’m not saying the tyres were crap, but he just didn’t have confidence in them to risk his GT3.
I’ve not used ‘proper’ track rubber since I used P-Zero Cora’s, Toyo R888, and Silverstone S585 tyres on my M5s. The Supersports are nowhere near their level of grip, but they also last longer than a day on track (in an M5). I’d drive to the track with a set of track wheels on the back seat - stopped doing so as I can’t do that in the Z4, and I can’t say I’ve really missed the extra grip (with its extra wear on everything).
I used R888's on my 911 for Autocross. Plenty fun (grip in the dry) but I would never consider them a everyday road tire. As others noted, you need heat for grip and on a regular road it is hard to get them warm (I drive 15 miles from my home to the track when I use them and they are still cold at the end of the trip). As with any R compound tire, they do a poor job of warning (e.g. squealing) before they lose grip. Get a nice Ultra or Extreme performance tire for the street.